Talk:Gingalain#Requested move 16 June 2025
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What version is this bit about Bleoberis and King Mark in?--Cúchullain t/c 08:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
The wording seems to suggest this story may have inspired the other similar stories such as Percival and Le Cote Mal Taile, but that seems off given the dating. Is the article supposed to imply that? -- Guest 209.162.56.40 04:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
:It says it's related to those, and perhaps the source of some of them. It's not a source for Percival, but reflects a similar motif popular at the time.--Cúchullain t/c 21:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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{{requested move/dated|Fair Unknown}}
:Gingalain → {{no redirect|Fair Unknown}} – It is a general trope (aka tradition,{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=0rHZJ_oedKgC&pg=PA172|title=A Companion to Malory|first1=Elizabeth|last1=Archibald|first2=Anthony Stockwell Garfield|last2=Edwards|date=June 16, 1996|publisher=Boydell & Brewer Ltd|via=Google Books}} story type,{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=HEoeCwAAQBAJ&pg=PR14|title=Lancelot and Guinevere: A Casebook|first=Lori J.|last=Walters|date=December 3, 2015|publisher=Routledge|via=Google Books}} pattern,{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=S_KjCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA66|title=Arthurian Literature XXXII|first=Richard|last=Severe|date=December 16, 2015|publisher=Boydell & Brewer|via=Google Books}} or theme{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=8ywEEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA299|title=The Arthur of the French: The Arthurian Legend in Medieval French and Occitan Literature|date=October 15, 2020|publisher=University of Wales Press|via=Google Books}}) for a number of different characters, including the eponymous Tale of the Fair Unknown.{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=eI5_Bxx8dg8C&pg=PR9|title=Lancelot of the Lake|date=June 16, 2000|publisher=Oxford University Press|via=Google Books}} (The sample links above in particular classify Lancelot as a Fair Unknown type, and here for example is a discussion of Lancelot in relation to some other early instances of the "Fair Unknown romances":{{Cite web|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=S_KjCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA66&|title=Arthurian Literature XXXII|first=Richard|last=Severe|date=December 16, 2015|publisher=Boydell & Brewer|via=Google Books}}) Gingalain is NOT the only other representative of such trope (etc.) and his excess material should be moved to Knights of the Round Table at the same time when the articles is being correctly retitled and quickly rewritten (it is important to also rewrite it while moving). Fair Unknown is right now just redirect but is actually the subject if this article, while Gingalain on his own is barely even covered as a character, thus should be moved to the the list of Knights as a new section. Actually I may handle it all myself, just notify me on my talk page after you change the title of this article here. 94.246.147.217 (talk) 08:19, 16 June 2025 (UTC)94.246.147.217 (talk) 09:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. CoconutOctopus talk 12:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)