Talk:Greenwashing#rfc 2E17927

Hello, I am employed by Boston University's Fineman & Pappas Law Libraries. After reviewing this Wikipedia page, I believe that information from one of our faculty's scholarship might provide a valuable addition to this page. I would appreciate it if this requested edit could be reviewed.

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Add missing citation to this sentence in the article (second paragraph of the article): "Many corporate structures use greenwashing as a way to repair public perception of their brand."{{cite web |last1=Condon |first1=Madison |title=Climate Change’s New Ally: Big Finance |url=https://perma.cc/K6LW-M5QJ |publisher=Boston Review}}

Cf2022 (talk) 18:45, 24 January 2021 (UTC)Cf2022

:File:Yes check.svg Done RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:00, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

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This article focuses largely on western developed, democratic nations (with the exception of a section on Thailand). This presents the suggestion that greenwashing either does not occur elsewhere in the world, or that it is wholly a western problem/phenomenon. PetSematary182 (talk) 04:11, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

is omnipresent and more dangerous - but missing in Wikipedia :(

Got save the Queen / King ;) 85.216.197.77 (talk) 07:45, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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• What I think should be changed (include citations): As this author of this peer-reviewed article, I have a direct conflict of interest. This flowchart and its caption information will be valuable for readers of the greenwashing page. Thank you for your consideration. The file is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greenwashing_diagnistic_flowchart.png

The reference can be, for example: Spaniol, M. J., Danilova-Jensen, E., Nielsen, M., Rosdahl, C. G., & Schmidt, C. J. (2024). Defining Greenwashing : A Concept Analysis. Sustainability, 1–17. https://doi.org/10.3390/su16209055

File:Greenwashing diagnostic flowchart.png

• Why it should be changed:

The lack of a shared, operant definition for greenwashing has led to fragmented scholarly research, unclear guidelines for practice, inconsistent enforcement, and reactive policy frameworks, resulting in ineffective efforts to combat its growth. With the aim to prevent the further spread of greenwashing, the flowchart can distinguish similar but often conflated concepts from greenwashing. This can then help to organize accurate conversations, support investigations, categorize research, provide guidelines for practitioners, and support regulators’ case analysis.

MatthewSpaniol (talk) 12:46, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

:It's a picture of text that is espousing a particular POV - one that is not universally held among reliable sources on this subject. Per WP:UNDUE we must leave it out. - MrOllie (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

::Which sources? And which POV? I remember I got flagged for weasel words once upon a time. 37.96.99.107 (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

:::One could, for example, argue that there are performative definitions of greenwashing, but this won't get you very far, let alone any solution to the problem. The other argument that is a dead end is that we know greenwashing when we see it, but the flowchart provides nuance. 37.96.99.107 (talk) 17:20, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

::::Wikipedia isn't looking for a 'solution to the problem' (see WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS). We should not illustrate an article that says that there is no universal definition with a picture of text which purports to present an algorithm for determining what is and isn't greenwashing. MrOllie (talk) 17:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::Agreed, WP can only report on what is already present in the world. Ideally there would a universally agreed definition of what greenwashing is but unfortunately there isn't. It would be great if the suggested flowchart was in major use in news reporting and legal cases but to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, it is not in such use. At best, we could only say here is one suggested definition/flowchart.  Stepho  talk  02:18, 24 February 2025 (UTC)