Talk:Home fuel cell

This page claims that a home fuel cell can generate "1-4 kW annually", which to me is nonsensical. One typically refers to having generated or consumed a total quantity of something over a period of time, so it would be more sensible to quote an energy amount (ie kWh) instead of a power quantity (ie kW). Of course, we won't know what was meant, since no source seems to be cited! Anonymous, 16:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:You're quite right, Anon -- it's a shame you didn't make the correction when you spotted it 8 months ago. I don't know if it was the result of sloppiness -- or just plain ignorance. Technology articles like this should be edited with great care to avoid such bonehead mistakes. At any rate (pun intended), I've fixed the problem (just deleted the word "annually"). Cgingold (talk) 11:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the 'Environmental Impact' section: I disagree that CHP fuel cells are 'by definition' 100% efficient. Is there any manufacturer who would claim this? All machines have losses. CHP is often regarded as around 80% efficient (see Cogeneration). The definitions of fuel cell in Wiktionary and OED do not mention efficiency. I will correct this section in a few minutes. Tomphills (talk) 08:51, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

:fool cell from viessmann costs $22k euro and produces 750 watt of electricity with claimed efficency 37%. combined cycle gas plants have effictiency about 60% and cost about 10 times less per watt. all this article is one big lie 85.238.97.234 (talk) 17:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I read the lead of this article and I still had no idea what the heck a "Home fuel cell" was. After reading the lead, the reader should have a general idea of what the article is about. After reading through the article, it seems like this is talking about solar energy? Why doesn't it state that in the lead, in plain English? I didn't make the change because I'm still not sure. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 15:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

The comparison with solar PV appears to consist mainly of unreferenced opinions of the author(s) based on their personal creed. For example, "However, these systems are not directly comparable because solar power is a renewable resource and natural gas is not."

If these two systems are to be directly compared, then the elephant in the room would seem to be dispatchability - That the fuel cell can produce energy on demand, whereas the solar array cannot. This doesn't seem to be mentioned at all. --Anteaus (talk) 12:07, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

:this is nonsense. fool cells are not dispatchable, they require high temperature to work. comparison with solar is indeed full of lies, because solar produces electricity for free, while fool cells burn natural gas to produce a lot of heat and tiny bit of electricity and they compared heat from fool cells vs electricity from panels. in reality you will waste all produced electricity running air conditioner to cool excess heat from fool cell. you know what else burns natural gas to produce heat and electricity? any ICE generator with installed cost few hundred bucks per kw. so fool cell is like ng-fueled generator with less noise and no oil changes, but about 100 times more expensive 85.238.97.234 (talk) 17:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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I do not believe that a bullet point list belongs in any article, unless it is within a section and the bullets make logical sense together. This page's first section had three random "Facts", most missing citations. I translated those bullet points into cohesive sentences and moved them to the best places within the article. Still needs some work on language - most of this article still needs citations and still needs the proposed "Advantages" and "Disadvantages".

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