Talk:IRIS Kharg

{{u|Pahlevun}} has not edited since November.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pahlevun] (t · c) buidhe 03:49, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

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Greetings all. In view of the ship's sinking, I've been working on updating the article using reliable sources per WP:RS, and am starting a Talk page discussion here regarding that topic. At least one of my additions, regarding [https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/disaster-for-iran-as-its-largest-naval-ship-sinks-669861 the description of the sinking by the Jerusalem Post] as "another humiliating disaster" for Iran, has been reverted by an IP, terming the sourced information "unencylopedic," and the same IP editor has also seen fit to create a text block out of what were three separate paragraphs. I shan't be edit warring per WP:BRD, and, again, am here to create a discussion regarding these and other future changes. Any other views will be welcome, thanks. Jusdafax (talk) 17:28, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

:Well, it's natural that Israel would rejoice in a disaster that befalls Iran. If the boot was on the other foot much the same would happen. I restored the ref to the text left unreferenced. AFAIK, JP is a RS. Even RSs are biased. We just need to recognise where biases may lie and work around them. Mjroots (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

::Jusdafax - stick to the facts! Just because a bias or opinion is in print, doesn't mean it needs to be in Wikipedia. Thanks! Billyshiverstick (talk) 22:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

:::I agree with Billyshiverstick, all sources should comply with WP:RS as well as WP:NPOV. Even if a source comes from a reliable source, if it is overly bias, it would be grounds to strike the citation to the source. Jurisdicta (talk) 02:33, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

::::{{re|Jurisdicta}} - sources do not have to comply with WP:NPOV. See WP:BIASED: {{tq|reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective. Sometimes non-neutral sources are the best possible sources for supporting information about the different viewpoints held on a subject ... Bias may make in-text attribution appropriate}}. Now, my comment is purely on Wikipedia policy. I take no position on this specific addition or this specific source. starship.paint (exalt) 03:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

The infobox labels what occurred on Jun 2 as resulting in the vessel being "Out of service." Should this be changed to sunk? Personnongratia (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

:Infobox is working how it is set up to work. The out of service date is 2 June 2021 and the fate field gives the reason why. Mjroots (talk) 18:10, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I can't find her operational or storage fuel capacity in the article. How much fuel could she carry? How much was spilled? Billyshiverstick (talk) 22:34, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

:Any information would need a reliable source. If you can find a reliable source containing this information, feel free to add it to the article or suggest it on the talk page here. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 23:25, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

The Makran (port ship) was bigger.--Falkmart (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

The "Sinking" section needs time zones attached to the times of day. They are not present in the cited sources, though. 2600:8800:1880:68:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

:This is confusing, different sources report in different time zones and aren't always clear about when they report what.TotallyAbrupt (talk) 09:18, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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