Talk:Inter-Services Intelligence activities in India

As per the DYK discussion, there's WP:SYNTH involved and most of this article does not follow NPOV. Till that is fixed, the tags should not be removed. --lTopGunl (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

:Please follow the discussion at DYK. Jumping in and rejecting the nomination will do nothing in your favour. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^{Talk Email} 08:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

::Address the concerns instead of commenting on me. And this tag is more than just for that DYK. --lTopGunl (talk) 08:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

• I have neutralized the article and thus removing the tag. If you think that it is POV, then please state the specific lines as I can't find any now. Please do not re-add without discussing. →TSU ^tp* 08:39, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I have also removed this conspiracy theory which was inserted by 79.170.54.190[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Inter-Services_Intelligence_activities_in_India&diff=605416483&oldid=570107392] on 23 April without discussion. In its current form, the conspiracy or more like very isolated theory is being presented like it is the final report. There was an edit conflict concerning this theory on 2008 Mumbai attacks a while ago. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 23:56, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

:Also that he has not taken the responsibility of this statement, he rather referred to someone who is not even a part of the team anymore. WP:SOAPBOX. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 10:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

:: You can't simply delete content sourced from a national newspaper. If you are convinced that there were no further references to this information in reliable sources, then you can reword it so that its weight is reduced. Kautilya3 (talk) 11:15, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

:::How this statement is even important? None of these 2 had any involvement in the investigation and the such statement seems to be giving so much weight that it would convince reader to believe as an official or significantly accepted. It was largely a part of political conflict than it was actually a part of investigation. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 12:31, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

:::: If it is regarded as a conspiracy theory in India, it can be attributed as such. There's very weak grounds for removal since it is a controversial and notable statement. Perhaps it could be reworded as Kautilya mentioned, in order to adjust WP:WEIGHT. It's not up to us to decide what goes in or what goes out; if the sources say it, it ought to be included. Neither is it up to us to decide what constitutes a conspiracy theory. For example, the notion that the ISI is involved in the Mumbai attacks itself can be called a conspiracy theory because it is only the position of the Indian government, and the Pakistani government rejects the accusations as invalid. Even that ought to be mentioned. Mar4d (talk) 12:57, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::: Can you back up each of your new ideas? We cannot reword a meaningless conspiracy theory that is rejected even in Pakistan as one of the "wackiest ideas".[http://tribune.com.pk/story/11701/will-the-real-zaid-hamid-please-stand-up/] An allegation that was founded after a significant investigation and it was published not only by the Pakistani media but also by the foreign media(CNN) is not a conspiracy theory. It is a conspiracy theory when it has no basis or any connection with the official investigation and it is made under the political pressure. Pakistani government doesn't say that India had staged any of these attacks, neither any of their own investigation revealed. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 13:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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After digging into this a bit, [http://www.firstpost.com/india/ishrat-jahan-case-is-satish-verma-a-crazed-conspiracy-theorist-955643.html], what I find is that a lone CBI official, Satish Varma, allegedly "believed" that IB orchestrated the Mumbai attacks and the Parliament attack, supposedly because they would lead to stronger anti-terror legislation in India. This was cited by a Home ministry official to accuse Varma of being crazed conspiracy theorist. Varma himself didn't say anything of the sort in public. While I can see how something like this would cause a sensation in Pakistan, my feeling is that there is nothing wiki-worthy here. Somebody said that somebody believed something. There is no evidence of any kind. (Media in India wrote it off as part of the unfortunate tussles between the CBI and IB, and can't find anything more about it.) Kautilya3 (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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The relevant information has never been disclosed publically about the accused intelligence agency and there are only rumors narrating. Neither the page has provided enough sources of global information to be added as a thread. Jockeyy13 (talk) 00:56, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Considering the recent development on

1. arrest of RAW spy

2. attack on Chinese consulate in Karachi funded by RAW

3. Safe Heavens for BLA in India

Should we create a new Page on 'RAW activities in Pakistan'? wp:con

Credauth (talk) 11:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

: That is called WP:POINTy editing, i.e., editing to make a point. It is prohibited. If there are sufficient WP:THIRDPARTY reliable sources available for a topic, you are always free to create a new article. However, this particular topic is quite murky, and previous attempts to create such articles have failed. See this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/India_and_state-sponsored_terrorism AfD discussion]. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Not know a isi arrest in India. Unfortunately 3 to 4 raw agent arrested in lahore Tal Q ha (talk) 17:21, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

A isi arrest by nia . Tal Q ha (talk) 17:22, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

About yourself Tal Q ha (talk) 17:54, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

U tell Tal Q ha (talk) 17:01, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Arrested Pakistan terrorist reveals Pak Army helps the terrorists at the launch pads in POK Tal Q ha (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2022 (UTC)