Talk:Interstate 80 in Nevada#Storey County

As NevadaDOT doesn't provide exit lists like Caltrans does (see Cal-NExUS), I had to get the exit lists from this site: http://www.geocities.com/henryewatson/nevadaexits.htm

That said, the exit list is still incomplete in terms of detail. I am also double-checking using Google Maps. Also, Mapquest looks interesting as well, as the exit numbers are directly on the maps.

Names for I-80 in Nevada:

• Victory Highway
• Dwight D. Eisenhower Highway
• Purple Heart Trail

From http://www.nevadadot.com/traveler/maps/StateMaps/pdfs/NamedHighways.pdf

--Geopgeop 20:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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On about 3 or 4 occasions people have inserted/tried to insert Storey County into the exit list of this article. It is true that Interstate 80 runs in Storey County, Nevada for a few hundred feet. However, that stretch has no intersections, major or minor, and isn't even long enough to have a complete intersection (as intersections usually take up about 1/2 a mile or so). It is in a rural part of the county with no habitation. It is also true that several similar California road articles do list similar phenomenon in the exit list (for example U.S. Route 395 in California lists a brief span in Sierra County). However there are key differences:

• California does not have a state wide mileage system for interstate highways, Nevada does.
• California has Milepost equations on highways since 1964 with no public log of the correction factors. Nevada periodically resigns highways and eliminates the milepost corrections in the process.

As a result of these 2 factors it is impossible to compute distances on California road articles unless the mileage figures for every county are given; so to compute distances requires every county be listed, regardless of if there is an intersection in that county. However, as Nevada has both countywide and statewide mileposts on its Interstate highways, the mention of counties is not necessary. As such, I've traditionally taken the stance that as this table is a major intersections list, no intersections = no need to mention in the list. However, I'm willing to defer to opinions of others. This is the only such instance on a Nevada Interstate Highway (I-15, I-215 and I-515 are entirely in Clark County, so this isn't an issue there, and I-580 has not yet been officially extended beyond Washoe county). Dave (talk) 09:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

:FYI, [http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=39.61637,-119.28771&z=15&t=T&marker0=39.63556%2C-119.28306%2CWadsworth%2C%20Nevada map showing the phenomenon] Dave (talk) 09:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

::Sounds like what M-134 does where it flip-flops between Mackinac and Chippewa counties. There's a really thin sliver of Mackinac County that extends east along a section of the Lake Huron shoreline, and since M-134 dips southward in that area to follow the shoreline a bit more closely, it clips back into Mackinac County. Anyways, to the situation here, I thin that Storey County needs to be listed. Minnesota State Highway 23 clips across a corner of Douglas County, Wisconsin, and Douglas County is listed in the junction list. Yes, these are lists of the (major) intersections, but they're also the one place in an article that's "guaranteed" to have all of the counties listed. I know that the infobox on this article doesn't have it's county list (probably should to help satisfy those looking for additional "context" on the location of the highway), but since the infobox would be a summary of the article, someplace in the article needs to list all of the counties. Unless you can convince the state to redraw the county boundary, you have to admit someplace that I-80 enters Storey County. Imzadi 1979 → 11:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

::Just as further talking points, the template {{tl|jctco}} is used to insert the "No major intersections" blank line for a county in a junction/exit list using templates. It has 126 transclusions at the moment in articles for states like Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and several others. Imzadi 1979 → 11:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

:::Simple mechanical solution. Insert {{jctco|state=NV|county=Storey}} at the right spot in your table. Philosophically, counties are major subdivisions of a state that have clear extents, so it is a good idea to mention them even if nothing worthwhile happens there.  VC  11:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

::::I would include the template that VC suggested to indicate Storey County has no major junctions. Dough4872 15:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

:::::I am in agreement here. {{tlx|Jctco}} is the way to show a county with no intersections. –Fredddie™ 15:37, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

::::::Thanks for the opinions, and VC, thank you for giving me the syntax to make that super easy. done. Dave (talk) 23:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

:::::::Point to note: The highway actually dips into Storey County very briefly twice. What is discussed above is the second instance, where it goes from Washoe County line on the Truckee River into Lyon County straight afterwards. You can actually see the next county line signs from the previous. The other instance is somewhere between USA Pkwy and Derby Dam interchanges. In this case, it appears part of the river (Washoe/Storey county boundary line) was slightly diverted and filled in during construction of I-80 to avoid building bridges, but the county line was not moved. This first case is even shorter than the other case, and is not signed at all. I only noticed because there are two entries for I-80 in the Storey County section of NDOT's route log--both of which are mileposted as Washoe County. But I wouldn't necessarily add this other instance to the table. -- LJ ↗ 20:33, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Poll I added a picture of the "Deeth Starr Valley" sign with appropriate caption.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interstate_80_in_Nevada&diff=prev&oldid=620539984] It has since been reverted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interstate_80_in_Nevada&diff=next&oldid=620539984]. I thought it added a measure of adequately-referenced and especially subdued levity to our exceptionally staid corpus while being consistent with the practice of including various images of the highway at one point or another. I won't do an edit war, so here's my poll. Restore, include with edits, or omit? -- ke4roh (talk) 03:23, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

:As cute as George Takei's Facebook post was today (and as often as I've seen and even photographed that sign and thought exactly the same thing myself), I don't think its particularly relevant. No need to include it. Leave as is. Famartin (talk) 05:47, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

:Well, "adequately-referenced" is incorrect, as that is a WP:SPS. Also, we are not a travel guide. --Rschen7754 06:08, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

::As the person who removed the image, I didn't find it terribly relevant, so I removed it. I have driven by that sign and never made that connection. The photo, as used here, was larger than other photos in the article and threw off the balance. Also, the reference in the caption was to one person's blog about a road trip, so that can't really be used as a reliable source. If there was actual media coverage of people making that mental connection, I could be swayed. -- LJ ↗ 20:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

:::It's cute, but not relevent. If I were going to post a humorous pop culture referable sign from the I-80 corridor, it would be this: [https://www.google.com/maps/@41.110663,-115.032787,3a,75y,296.12h,86.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sSw8u2npahgBdID_T5-iUeA!2e0]. Dave (talk) 16:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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