Talk:John Higgins

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

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:John Higgins (snooker player) → {{no redirect|John Higgins}}

:John Higgins → {{no redirect|John Higgins (disambiguation)}}

I'm pretty certain Higgins is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for his name. Whilst there is a lot of "John Higgins" at John Higgins, none of them are nearly as notable as this four time world champion (7 times World Championship finalist). I did a [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=John_Higgins_(snooker_player) pageview analysis] on the page, and nothing gets anywhere near as much traffic (if at all). Whilst this isn't a surefire way to denote the primary topic, it's a good indicator. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

• Support. Although the actor John Michael Higgins gets a [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2015-07&end=2019-03&pages=John_Higgins|John_Patrick_Higgins|John_Higgins_(footballer,_born_1930)|John_Higgins_(snooker_player)|Johnnie_Lee_Higgins|Jon_B._Higgins|John_Higgins_(comics)|John_Michael_Higgins|John_C._Higgins|John_Higgins_(gunman) comparable number of views], he is commonly known as and distinguished by his full name. Between all the dab page entries these two men account for 93% of all page views, and in fact the dab page itself gets more views than any other entry. This seems like a sensible move to me. PC78 (talk) 14:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

• Support. I recently identified Neil Robertson and Anthony McGill as primary topics and moved them accordingly. I wanted to do the same with John Higgins at the time, but wasn't sure how to do the analysis other than go through every entry laboriously, so didn't bother in the end. Definitely in favour of this move. Rodney Baggins (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
• Support. This seems like the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
• Support. Per above. Nigej (talk) 07:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose. There are 26 entries at the John Higgins disambiguation page for this very common name. While subject is undoubtedly a celebrity in his specialized arena, he is not an internationally renowned household name and should not be raised to the top of such a large number of other same-named men. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 13:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
• :It seems to me that you are arguing that fame should be a criteria? Higgins may not be an internationally renowned household name, but he is a renowned person within the context of an international sport. In other words he has more encyclopedic value than any of the others. Also, if he gets more hits than all the other John Higgins' put together (bar the John Higgins who is better known by a different name) then he is qualifiably and quantifiably the primary topic. My only reluctance to support the move is actually due to the commonality of his name, and the fact that somebody just as notable will in all probablity come along one day leaving us with a massive clean-up job. The snooker project is only small so needs to allocate its resources judiciously. Betty Logan (talk) 14:32, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
• ::To be fair, it being a lot of work isn't really a valid argument. These things get sorted with the moves anyway. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
• Support All stats indicate a clear primary topic. --Yaksar (let's chat) 01:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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