Talk:Junlper

how is this awful page even allowed on this website. geeeeg holy shit Sooty soot (talk) 20:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

:so true Personisinsterest (talk) 03:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

:There's better ways to frame this sentiment, but ultimately I agree. I'm registering my discontent with this article too, I think it plainly falls outside typical notability standards and is protected by the account's association with a certain strain of internet culture also commonplace among wikipedia editors. Garnet Moss (talk) 23:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Why is this even an actual page

Only chronically online people actually know about this and it has no real cultural significance to talk about 2409:40E7:D7:FEA:AA09:968C:B48E:D77F (talk) 17:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

:This article has previously been nominated for deletion; the consensus was to keep it. You can read those past discussions by following the links at the top of this page. For the policies as to who gets a Wikipedia article, see WP:Notability and WP:GNG. To learn more about the process for nominating an article for deletion, see WP:Articles for deletion. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk • stalk) 03:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

::Confused how this happened? I may be confused on the rules, but on the page for the seventh nomination I see 6 moves to keep and 7 to delete. Not sure how that happened.

::And if you are to keep this, it should absolutely be re-worded, it reads like parody. "American shitposter"? Really? Catturd is the only other article on this website (and i don't like it there either) that uses this word to describe a person. I would argue she isn't really known for much outside of just another leftist twitter account, and this article is probably the only place that defines this user as being known for "goblin mode", a term which is mostly known for being Oxford's 2022 word of the year and not much else. Even that isn't very notable, it was chosen from weak competition such as "metaverse" and an irrelevant hashtag. It was also chosen from an online poll, which are usually not trustworthy. This leaves the titular "snickers dick vein", the shortest section of the article, as their second claim to fame. I don't think this is notable; people lie all the time on the internet. The "backlash" lasted less than a week before being fact-checked by Snopes and clarified by Snickers themselves the next day. That leaves us with a few viral tweets that some journalists thought were worthy of using. Not really notable.

::I unfortunately missed the previous nomination, but that doesn't mean this article is anywhere close to good. It reads like one of those fake Wikipedia memes you'd see on iFunny, not surprised that Junlper herself has been accused of writing it. Regardless of what happens, it should really be rewritten from the ground up, but I feel then people may once again ask why exactly we need an article with dubious at best sources for a mostly unknown e-celeb who popularized two memes that the overall internet no longer uses. Doombruddah (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:::You are technically welcome to nominate it again; however the last deletion discussion closed less than two months ago, so I would not recommend this.See also Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk • stalk) 02:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

::::{{RPA}} LexigtonMisiENG (talk) 02:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::I wouldn't go around throwing accusations. Doombruddah (talk) 06:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

::::Ask 10000 people over about 20 years old if they recognize the name and they won't because Juniper is a literal nobody e-celebrity who had 15 minutes of fame. You are only keeping the article on here probably because you are favoring somebody who is also a {{redacted}} and shared similar political views. 2600:1702:4BC4:4A10:AB2F:DEF2:CC75:C140 (talk) 12:27, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::I personally had nothing to do with any of the previous AfDs. Please avoid making personal attacks. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk • stalk) 13:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Ask 10000 people over about 20 years old if they have heard about a lot of things on Wikipedia and they won't because this is an encyclopaedia, which is a resource for people to find out about subjects that they don't already know about, as well as to find out more about subjects that they do. I am merely going to note and redact the transphobia in the anonymous comment above but if there are any more personal attacks (either on the subject or on other editors) then I will roll this pointless thread up, assuming that somebody else doesn't do it first, and issue the appropriate warning templates.

:::::We all know where AfD is. If anybody wants to try an AfD again then they can. If they bring their best, policy based, arguments then it might have a slim chance of success. If it is just petulant kvetching then it won't. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:33, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::@2600:1702:4BC4:4A10:AB2F:DEF2:CC75:C140

:::::I'd recommend that you not use twitter discourse as a reason to come here and call someone a "literal nobody" and use words that have to be redacted. if you'd like this to be deleted, don't portray yourself in a childish way. you have no argument here, just your own arbitrary opinion that she's unknown. you're coming here to spout transphobia and hatred, please do not do this. 69.125.160.224 (talk) 09:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

{{Edit extended-protected|Junlper|answered=yes}}

Maybe add a nod to Junlper's activity on Bluesky? She seems to also have activity there, though whether she is more active there than on Twitter I haven't checked. 76.87.26.46 (talk) 23:57, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

:Do you have a reliable source we can cite for this addition? - Adolphus79 (talk) 01:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

:I think we have to wait until either one of her Bluesky posts goes viral enough to get RS coverage or a Reliable Source mentions the shift. In the meantime, her Bluesky account is already in the external links. DanielRigal (talk) 23:18, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

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JunIper has long since shared her real name on [https://bsky.app/profile/junlper.bsky.social a Bluesky account of hers], and it appears as her credit in The Onion's print edition as "Social Media Editor". The inclusion of her name and her participation in The Onion may be of note in the lead section.

• https://bsky.app/profile/junlper.beer/post/3llfa2wzisc2a

— Fallbackintoreality (t • c) 22:00, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:It is relevant information, but for biographies of living persons we would need a better source than someone on Bluesky saying this. Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 08:36, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:The edit has already been made by somebody. Please, if you perform an edit request, change into answered=yes! Lova Falk (talk) 08:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Considering that Junlper is banned from Twitter and posts on BlueSky now, I think the description should be modified along the lines of "social media personality", which is more neutral and correct over time than "Twitter user" 79.116.131.176 (talk) 09:38, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

:You are right, but this is already the case. Lova Falk (talk) 11:56, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

In light of deletion discussions regarding the Captive Dreamer X account, which arguably had tangible impact on American politics, I'm stunned to see this useless fluff article still on Wikipedia. 2600:1702:6650:3430:F691:AAE1:E309:4C81 (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:If you feel like reading 13k words, you can read through the 4 pervious AFDs for this article: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th, the most recent of which closed No consensus. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 14:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::Can I state the obvious in that there's people with a vested and biased interest in the account caping for the articles existence. 2600:1009:B045:CC61:0:4:4D8D:6601 (talk) 16:54, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Can I give some advice in that you shouldn't be casting unsubstantiated snide WP:ASPERSIONS about other editors have WP:COIs without evidence, and should always try to WP:ASSUMEGOODFAITH. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 17:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::::At this point I borderline feel like we should add an FAQ about "why this article exists" as ridiculous as that sounds just to get ahead of what is somehow the top question on this page, maybe add the bluesky thing as well. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::::My good faith is exhausted in the field of this plainly ridiculous article. Thanks for your contributions to the No Nut November article btw 2600:1702:6650:3430:90B:DBE0:B4C3:148A (talk) 22:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Edit extended-protected|Junlper|answered=yes}}

I would like for the citations to any of the subject's Bluesky posts to be fixed, since she has changed her username from @junIper.bsky.social to @junIper.beer and the citations don't reflect that in the source URL. The citations also need proper archival, and since Bluesky prevents the Wayback Machine from archiving the site properly for some reason, they need to be pre-emptively archived using archive.today instead.

The sources that need to be updated are:

• [https://bsky.app/profile/junlper.beer/post/3kjcczpyh5s26 i haven’t officially announced it here but my current twitter account is @canteverdie if anyone here still uses twitter too] from January 19, 2024 ([https://archive.ph/LCgVp archive.today link])
• [https://bsky.app/profile/junlper.beer/post/3kbc2fvge2m2y was not planning on launching the JUNLPER BOT until later this week but it was a good time as andy ngo decided to dox me, figured it was a good time to launch it and address him, but yes it is official] from October 9, 2023 ([https://archive.ph/8Rye1 archive.today link])
• [https://bsky.app/profile/junlper.beer/post/3llfa2wzisc2a you won’t regret holding real news in your hands. you can also hold my name in your hands if that sounds interesting, too] from March 27, 2025 ([https://archive.ph/nQPSn archive.today link])

Fallbackintoreality (t • c) 11:43, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}} – macaddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 19:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)