Talk:Kekāuluohi

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No evidence of name of Ka'ahumanu III

I just reread Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs to make sure, and I find no evidence that Kekauluohi was ever called Ka'ahumanu III. Please provide a citation or I will change the title of the article. I removed one external link that did not have anything to do with her.

Mahalo. Makana Chai (talk) 06:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:Well it's been two years. I was going to do something along that line. I think we should move Kaahumanu II to Kinau, and Kaahumanu III to Kekāuluohi, and Kaahumanu IV to Victoria Kamamalu. But every link and in other articles that mentions Kaahumanu 2-4 must be removed. I'll get to it later. Some help would be appreciated.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

:Yeah, that confused me when going through the old Hawaiian newspapers I decided to google something on Kekauluohi but was confused because I saw the name of Kaahumanu and didn't want to click on it but my browser already indicated that I had clicked on it before. I must've clicked on it when it was Kekauluohi, not Kaahumanu III. I'm not sure who decided that all the Kuhina Nui would be Kaahumanu I, II, III, etc. --Mamoahina (talk) 06:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

::They (as in the Kaahumanu I, II, III, IV) were used for Kinau, and sometimes, but rarely, for Kekauluohi and Victoria Kamamalu.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

:::I think you meant that they were styled that way, not that they were actually used very often. I commented on the other page about how they never signed that way.--Mamoahina (talk) 22:39, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

::::Yeah not common but actually real names, there are evidences of these names. But we should use the most common names, so I move these articles to these titles. The oldest source I can find that called her Kaahumanu III was 1843 in Sheldon Dibble's history of the Sandwich Islands. Other sources actually called Victoria Kamamalu Kaahumanu III instead.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Somethings

[http://books.google.com/books?id=fuDkAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA575&ots=qI8XrZHf6Q&dq=Kekuaiwa%20meaning&pg=PA574#v=onepage&q=Kekuaiwa%20meaning&f=false Here] it seems that the missionaries called her a woman of low birth with no more power than any common natives. I though it'll interesting to place here in case anybody wanted to add it to the article.

Moved from article

An important source but sadly no specific page number listed for claims. [http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.692.4949&rep=rep1&type=pdf Here] is a current link to it.

{{quote|, who "fondled her as if she were a feather lei from the precious mamo bird."{{cite book |chapter= Reality and Fantasy: The Foster Child in Hawaiian Myths and Customs |author= Katharine Luomala, University of Hawaii |title= Pacific Studies |year= 1987 |publisher= Brigham Young University Hawaii Campus |pages= 1–45 |url= http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.692.4949&rep=rep1&type=pdf|url-status= dead |archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20160304191704/https://ojs.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.php/PacificStudies/article/viewFile/9449/9098 |archive-date= March 4, 2016 |df= mdy-all }}{{rp|26}}}}--Mark Miller (talk) 07:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

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Son Davida

Additional sources

  • http://hmha.missionhouses.org/exhibits/show/aliiletters/item/3041 (undated, conjecture of archivist, could be Kalakaua as well)
  • http://hmha.missionhouses.org/files/original/a39de2b520141110862030bb56ad40ef.pdf (definitely referring to Kalakaua, referred to as David instead of Davida)

KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)