Talk:Lance Armstrong#2012 USADA Charges.2C Take 2

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2025

Category:Banned sportspeople Teresa Ann Smith (talk) 05:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Recommendation for Punctuation Correction Leads to Correction of Incorrect Information

Action: Remove 'vinblastine' from the sentence "he was given an alternative, vinblastine etoposide, ifosfamide, and cisplatin (VIP)"

Reasoning:

In the portion of text quoted below, we are missing a comma:

"he was given an alternative, vinblastine etoposide, ifosfamide, and cisplatin (VIP)"

This should be:

"he was given an alternative, vinblastine, etoposide, ifosfamide, and cisplatin (VIP)"

The comma between vinblastine and etoposide is important. However it clued me in to a more important mistake.

I am concerned about whether this passage is correct at all because etoposide and vinblastine do not appear to be used together. Like Platinol and cisplatin, they are two drugs which can be swapped one for the other.

Supporting Citations:

Citation 1

Text: "ifosfamide to cisplatin plus etoposide (VIP), or vinblastine (VeIP)"

Link: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-109-7-540

Citation 2

Text: "VIP is a combination of chemotherapy drugs used to treat testicular cancer that has spread or come back. It is also called PEI or IPE.

It is made up of the following drugs next to each drug we have how you pronounce it in brackets:

cisplatin (sis-plat-in)

etoposide (ee-top-o-side)

ifosfamide (eye-foss-fa-mide)"

Link: https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/treatment/drugs/cisplatin-etoposide-ifosfamide-vip

Citation 3

Text: "This study was designed to assess the effectiveness of vinblastine, ifosfamide, and cisplatin (VeIP) as second-line therapy in patients with recurrent germ cell tumors with previous treatment with cisplatin plus etoposide, usually in combination with bleomycin."

Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9667270/

Citation 4:

Text: "Standard-dose regimens that are commonly used include VIP (etoposide plus ifosfamide plus cisplatin), VeIP (vinblastine plus ifosfamide plus cisplatin)"

Link: https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JOP.2016.011411

These citations make the initialism clear:

VIP is ifosfamide, cisplatin, and etoposide

VeIP is vinblastine, ifosfamide, and cisplatin

I believe the reason the original editor included vinblastine is because it would seem logical that a word starting with V would be including in the initialism. As we can see, this is actually not the case. Thysonsacclaim (talk) 13:05, 9 March 2025 (UTC)