Talk:Lie-isotopic algebra

So, I don't know the topic of the article is notable or not. Thus, for now, I put the notability template. Maybe some editors with more physics background can tell if the topic is notable or not. Taku (talk) 09:36, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

The topic may not be notable enough for a standalone article but it can be a part of some broader article covering various attempts to generalize Lie algebras, I think. (So just an outright deletion seems not preferable in my view.) -- Taku (talk) 09:40, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:If you don't know if a topic is notable or not then you shouldn't be moving it from draft to main article space. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::Like said, it may not be notable enough for its own article, but it may be part of a broader article so it makes sense to move it to mainspace (as otherwise it will be deleted). Moving a draft to mainspace does no way mean the notability is well established (only that doesn't have any serious issues, including a clear lack of notability) Taku (talk) 12:03, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:::100% disagree. Moving something from draft to main article space says you have reviewed and determined that notability is established. Please stop moving drafts to main article space if you have any question of the draft's notability. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::::No, there is no such a rule. Why do you think we have an AfD? Or the notability template? We do reviews when articles are in mainspace. Moving a draft isn't some sort of passing a peer review process. A review process happens in mainspace. If the topic is clearly non-notable, that's a serious issue and it means a draft shouldn't move to mainspace. If there isn't a serious issue, a draft can be moved to mainspace where it can be scrutinized more. -- Taku (talk) 12:55, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Because that is one of the draft decline criteria of the articles for creation review process. UtherSRG (talk) 13:51, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::That's an AfC and I am not a participant. Note the draft was moved to mainspace independent of an AfC process. Taku (talk) 13:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::The point is we do reviews in draft space all the time, that notability is one of the key criteria used to determine if a draft is acceptable. Your non-participation in AFC does not mean you should ignore its existence, or make claims that things that regularly do happen in draft space don't happen there. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::::I didn't say we don't review drafts in the draftspace but sometimes some topic can benefit from attentions from a broader group of editors (i.e., those who don't deal with drafts). You do agree that reviews can and do happen in mainspace, right? By the way, to clarify, I do see the potential for the notability, especially as a part of a broad article. If I didn't see any notability possibility, of course, I won't move it to mainspace. Taku (talk) 14:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Please note I have made a proposal to start a generalization of a Lie algebra article at Talk:Lie_algebra#Proposed_merge_of_Lie-isotopic_algebra_into_Lie_algebra. It seems that's the best compromise (at least we can clear the notability question). -- Taku (talk) 18:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)