Talk:List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements#Split

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Split

+Current proposal

|List of XY 2024 presidential campaign political endorsements

  • List of XY 2024 presidential campaign federal executive officials endorsements
  • List of XY 2024 presidential campaign congressional legislators endorsements
  • List of XY 2024 presidential campaign sub-national officials endorsements
  • List of XY 2024 presidential campaign international endorsements

|List of XY 2024 presidential campaign non-political endorsements

  • List of XY 2024 presidential campaign actors and actresses endorsements
Braganza (talk) 20:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:It has become too laggy to edit and the server keeps crashing. Please split. D4R1U5 (talk) 14:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

:Hello {{u|Braganza}}! Looks like you executed this split, but now the articles have dozens of undefined reference errors. Do you have a plan to fix up these problems? -- mikeblas (talk) 15:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Kamala_Harris_2024_presidential_campaign_endorsements&action=edit&oldid=1253398544] someone could look where each reference was defined in the old version Braganza (talk) 16:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:::Are you not willing to clean up the errors yourself? They're due to your edits, and they're quite extensive. -- mikeblas (talk) 22:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

::::when i have time Braganza (talk) 06:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::I have taken care of the remaining errors for you. Some other users have done the majority of the work -- I hope you'll take the time to thank them for cleaning up. -- mikeblas (talk) 23:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

I propose to split this article and the Trump article into a political and non-political list similar to :List of Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign endorsements Braganza (talk) 21:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

:Yes this could work, I forward this motion in support.

:btw is your name Tom? Haroldwinstanley (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

::No Braganza (talk) 07:08, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:What is your reasoning? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:48, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

::The article is getting very long Braganza (talk) 07:09, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:I do believe that a split is needed, but I think it might need to be divided up further than that as even if it could be evenly split, both would be 472k bytes. Still, I do support some form of splitting. --Super Goku V (talk) 10:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

::@Super Goku V how would you split it Braganza (talk) 11:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:::Honestly, that is a tough question. I guess if I had to split it, I would go based off of the largest chunks as mentioned in the section size template:

:::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign political endorsements

::::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign federal executive officials endorsements

::::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign congressional legislators endorsements

::::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign state legislators endorsements

::::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign municipal, sub-state, and local officials endorsements

:::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign non-political endorsements

::::* List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign actors and actresses endorsements

:::That would make it so that no sub-article is over half the current size, if my counts are accurate. Granted, I am unsure of what the goal is for the lists. Is under 250k the goal? 200k or even 100k? --Super Goku V (talk) 08:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::::@Super Goku V i would add "List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign international endorsements" Braganza (talk) 09:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::If you think it is an improvement, then sure. I just am a bit unsure of how far we should go. --Super Goku V (talk) 09:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::::::i'd say:

::::::*List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign political endorsements

::::::**List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign federal executive officials endorsements

::::::**List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign congressional legislators endorsements

::::::**List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign state, municipal, sub-state, and local officials endorsements

::::::**List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign international endorsements

::::::*List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign non-political endorsements

::::::**List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign actors and actresses endorsements

::::::Braganza (talk) 10:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::::{{ping|Yilku1|HarukaAmaranth|Super Goku V}} Braganza (talk) 16:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

::::::::Sure, still fine with it. At the worst, the largest should be still under 300k, if my quick math from earlier is still correct. --Super Goku V (talk) 03:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::::I would say to combine the congressional legislature and state level officials into one page. No reason to have them separate like that honestly. Tipsyfishing (talk) 03:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::::@Braganza Honestly, while my preference would be to just do {{tq|List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign state and territorial political endorsements}} and dump everything below the state level, if there's not consensus for that then {{tq|List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign state and local political endorsements}} is a more WP:CONCISE title since local includes municipal and sub-state. --Ahecht (TALK
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15:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

::::::::@Ahecht how about simply "Sub-national political endorsements" Braganza (talk) 15:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::@Braganza Even better! --Ahecht (TALK
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15:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::::Can we split it in almost the same way as Joe Bidens endorsements? WikiFili1898 (talk) 20:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:Yes, the size of this article is absurd. Yilku1 (talk) 20:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::Second to that. A normal article doesn't need to be this long - 850k bytes is absurd. HarukaAmaranth 13:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|NoWikiNoLife|Zaathras|THTB lol'nt}} Braganza (talk) 07:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:I agree this article is getting too long and we need 2 separate pieces, Political & Non-Political endorsements for Harris, similar to Biden in 2020 & Clinton in 2016 and the same goes for the Trump endorsements article too. 50.170.74.122 (talk) 18:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{agree}}. These two pages are absurdly long, and dividing them into political and non-political pages seems wise. I would support the many-way split most recently proposed by Braganza; pages of this size are gargantuan to navigate by table of contents so it help to have coarser navigation on the disambiguation page. Mia a data witch!  talk · contribs 20:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:Agree, it has become too long for easy reading. If necessary we can make a template (or similar) to more easily navigate between the subpages. I think the current proposal for split pages is very good, and support it. Alexander Bonaparte Caesar (talk) 00:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

:Last call i think we should split it in 24 hours Braganza (talk) 11:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

::Agree, we should need to split it into Political & Non-Political endorsements for Harri. 2601:188:C980:37D0:1FD:4414:DF24:9BA2 (talk) 16:17, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

:::*Harris

:::2601:188:C980:37D0:1FD:4414:DF24:9BA2 (talk) 16:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

::i am now starting to split it Braganza (talk) 13:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

:::so i split Trump, someone should do Harris now Braganza (talk) 14:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{agree}}. The page now exceeds the post-expand include size unstrip size limit. --Ahecht (TALK
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17:13, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

:No… only 11 days til election day, leave it as one page. 2601:546:200:79E0:F984:92EC:CBAB:D65C (talk) 15:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

::Why would the election make it so that we would need to wait in order to split? --Super Goku V (talk) 05:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

:Support since the Donald Trump endorsement pages are also split, so should Kamala Harris's. Unnamed anon (talk) 21:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign state, municipal, sub-state, and local officials endorsements what do we do now Braganza (talk) 21:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

:I don't think that this split is immediately impacted. The argument there is about the importance of local official endorsements. If it closes as delete then we'd just remove the sub-state endorsements and make the equivalent of List of Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign state and territorial political endorsements instead. --Ahecht (TALK
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15:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

::i wont split actors yet since the article would be just a name list Braganza (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)