Talk:List of ethnic slurs#Edit Request - Dubious source

Chigga is a common slur against Asians derived from instagram and should be included. It comes from chinese nigga. TheLucidEnd (talk) 05:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for your suggestion. We need a citation that shows this is culturally significant. Basically a mention in a newspaper article, or better some scholarly source. We do not add new slurs without a citation. Let us know if you know or come across one. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

::We could list it as a synonym of chink.{{Cite journal |last=Bălinișteanu-Furdu |first=Cătălina |date=2022-12-12 |title=To use “he/she” or “they”: That is the question |url=http://dx.doi.org/10.46687/kegq9804 |journal=Studies in Linguistics, Culture, and FLT |volume=10 |issue=3 |pages=51–65 |doi=10.46687/kegq9804 |issn=2534-952X}} ―Howard • 🌽³³ 12:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

::"[https://scholar.google., com/scholar?cluster=17283269074617651968&hl=en&as_sdt=0,39#d=gs_qabs&t=1740749438422&u=%23p%3DZprzpcyGeP4J Chink, also chinki, chinky, or chigga,] is an ethnic discriminative term referring to a person of Chinese Bridgeyy (talk) 13:39, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

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I would like to add two entries to the List Of Ethnic Slurs.

Term ... Karen

Location or origin ... USA

Targets ... White women

Meaning, origin and notes ... Targeting confident white women as being privileged and entitled, dating to the early 2000s.

References ... See Wikipedia page on Karen (slang)

Term ... Gammon

Location or origin ... UK

Targets ... Conservative white men

Meaning, origin and notes ... A slur used against conservative white men, referring to the colour of their flushed face when expressing strong opinions. Dating to the early 1600s.

References ... See Wikipedia page on Gammon (insult) Snowyowl-uk (talk) 21:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

:My request above isn't formatted very well as it omitted most of the line breaks. I'll try again to make it more readable.

:Term: Karen.

:Location or origin: USA.

:Targets: White women.

:Meaning, origin and notes: Targeting confident and outspoken white women as being privileged and entitled, dating to the early 2000s. Equivalent words are not used for women of other races so it can be considered a racial slur.

:References: See Wikipedia page on Karen (slang).

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:Term: Gammon.

:Location or origin: UK.

:Targets: Conservative white men.

:Meaning, origin and notes: A slur used against conservative white men, referring to the colour of their flushed face when expressing strong opinions. Dating to the early 1600s. References: See Wikipedia page on Gammon (insult). Snowyowl-uk (talk) 22:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Both of these have been added and removed repeatedly. This indicates that there is a lack of consensus to have them as ethnic slurs. Both have been argued that they do not target an ethnic, but a behavior pattern for "karen" and a political position for "gammon". Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

:That might be valid if those slurs are also used for other ethnic groups, is that what members have experienced? Other slurs in the list target universal behaviour patterns such as "bluegum". Snowyowl-uk (talk) 09:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

::I think with regards to 'gammon' you are correct. Gammon seems to be analogous to 'coconut', A slur against a racial group with a particular political viewpoint.Halbared (talk) 10:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add following to the list:

Guiri  (Term) - Spain (Location or Origin) - Northern European White People (Targets) - Originating from the Carlist Wars to identify those who supported Queen Maria Cristina (who was born in Palermo, Sicily) as oppossed to the Spanish native Don Carlos. The term has went on to be applied against foreign White Northern European people living or visiting Spain. (Meaning, Origin, and notes). REF1, [https://www.gbnews.com/travel/spanish-people-secret-code-offensive-word-british-tourists REF2], [http://www.ub.edu/geocrit/sn-94-58.htm REF3], [http://www.cafebabel.es/cultura/articulo/quienes-son-los-guiris.html REF4], [https://dle.rae.es/guiri REF5], [https://madridnofrills.com/?p=18238 REF6], [https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/europe/offensive-code-word-spanish-locals-33507626 REF7], [https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/world-news/secret-nasty-nickname-spanish-locals-29795234 REF8], [https://www.theposttraumatic.com/post/guiri-guilt-trip?srsltid=AfmBOoonfEztYFU3QRAu07TkiWZufNFwOQciM05pcQRXFEBsbve-yiiZ REF9], [https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1940130/secret-word-spanish-locals-use REF10], [https://www.vergemagazine.com/work-abroad/blogs/2447-in-spain-i-m-just-another-guiri.html REF11], [https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/world-news/spanish-locals-nickname-irish-holidaymakers-29799494 REF12] 79.154.53.240 (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{done}} P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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I believe that the list of racial slurs is missing the term "chigger" or "chigga", used to refer to those of eastern asian descent which idolize or attempt to imitate black culture. I believe this term should be integrated, as the white variant "wigger" is included in the list. Please allow me to represent my people on this list it would mean a great deal to our people. Thank you. 206.12.14.80 (talk) 01:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

:We need a citation to include this. One that shows this is culturally significant. It would also be helpful if some other Wikipedia article found is significant enough to mention. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Question, is the spanish word 'conguito' considered an ethnic slur by any means? 67.206.168.2 (talk) 21:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:"By any means"? Sure. Per [https://www.printmag.com/id-mag/conguitos/ this article] it freely translated means “little Congo boys.” Apparently "Conguitos" is a Spanish candy that used a stereotype mascot for its branding. [https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-07-02/spains-conguitos-candy-pushed-to-rebrand-racist-imagery.html Here] is another article about it. It seems a bit obscure, but you might offend someone with it. I do not care to add it to the article as I feel the list is getting long and we must set a higher standard for entries. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add "Britbong" as a slang term for British people to the list.

Primarily used by Americans among internet circles. AE45-ESL1-55GP-PI0L-13GP-33EP-FQZX (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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Dumpster,a racial slur used in Canada against people of East Indian ethnic Origin 173.32.73.120 (talk) 02:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LizardJr8 (talk) 22:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

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Add Bisakol in the list of slurs. It's a derogatory term that has grown popularity in the past 5 years as a slur against Visayan people (Filipinos who came from the Visayas Region). The term largely become popular in Facebook during the Duterte candidacy as Duterte himself is Bisaya (the proper term). TheFourth-JBL (talk) 12:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --AntiDionysius (talk) 12:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Please add the word "Konga", as it is a derogatory term used by the Kannada people against Tamils.

Please add the word "Vadakkan" as it is a derogatory term used by the Tamil people against North Indians. SavetheSouthofIndia (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

:Please supply citations to support that these are used as slurs and are culturally significant. See WP:CULTURALREFS. "Konga" seems to refer to a region of the Tamil Nadu and "Vadakkan" just means "Northerner". We should not list place names as slurs just because some people think of people from said places poorly. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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1) Add the term Porch Monkey to the list.

Origin is Unites States used by Southern White People.

Porch monkey is a racial slur that characterizes Black people as lazy and unintelligent.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/porch-monkey/

2)Add Moon Crickets to the list.

Used in the United States by white people. Mostly southern.

The exact origin of moon crickets is obscure. One theory suggests it begins with US slaves, who sang as a pastime—an act of community and resistance—at night after their labor. Crickets are known to chirp in the evening, when the moon is out.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/moon-crickets/ CeciSweet333 (talk) 23:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

:I'm an American who has only spent a few weeks total in the Southern US in over 50 years. I've never heard that second term before, but the first is certainly not confined to the South. (As for adding the terms to the article, I have no objection either way. Mainly, I don't even want to type out that first term....) CAVincent (talk) 04:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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:"Added "Porch Monkey", although "Monkey" is already on the list and we should avoid a lot variations having their own entry. This seems to have enough significance to warrant it.. "Moon Cricket" is already on the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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I hereby request access to correct and supply this page (List of ethnic slurs). One small correction - "fjellabe" spells "fjeldabe". The term can also be linked as it is defined another places in Wikipedia. I also posess some slurs used in differet, mainly older, Norwegian, Swedish and English litteratur - and in some old, but public avaiable, recordings.

If someone want me to provide a slur and a source before letting giving me acess, I can do so. Kkv65 (talk) 21:32, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

:So "fjellabe" should be spelled "fjeldabe"? But the existing source has "fjellabe". What wiki link are you suggesting? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

::Different spellings:

:::fjellabe - The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ethnic_slurs&oldid=1261925484#F current] entry spelling. (Norwegian?)

:::fjellaper - The [https://studenttorget.no/index.php?show=3934&expand=3796,3929,3930,3934&artikkelid=14270 cited article] claims this is a Danish word. Note this article does not mention it is a slur.

:::fjällapa - Swedish per Wiktionary

:::fjeldabe - Danish per Wiktionary (preferred spelling by OP.)

:::fjellabae - [https://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/landsholdsfodbold/article4109147.ece This] Danish article mentions this spelling, but seems to say it is incorrect. (Hard to tell from Google Translate.)

::"Fjell" is Norwegian for "mountain" and "ape", "apa" and "abe" are all used for monkey in North Germanic languages along with plurals respectively "aper", "apar" and "aber". Seems like a pain to sort it out unless we can find someone who speaks all these languages and understands the nuances. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

:{{Not done}} Please provide sources showing spelling (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 18:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

:{{subst:ESp|n}} My bad. I used the wrong template. Same reason applies, please provide source (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 18:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

::Test subst:ESp|n (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 18:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

:...Wikipedia is being quite fussy. My apologies for the all the replies {{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 19:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Sorry am new to this. I believe we should add the Greek slur term "arapis". It refers to black people, and arabs. I don't know if I am allowed to source Wiktionary, but it is on there as a reference. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%80%CE%B7%CF%82

I hope I have done this edit request properly. Breadeater9000 (talk) 16:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Breadeater9000}} {{notdone}}. Sorry, but wikis (including Wiktionary and Wikipedia) are not considered reliable sources. And unfortunately, the Wiktionary entry does not provide a ciation to a reliable source. For more information, see WP:RS. Sundayclose (talk) 18:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you for your response! I will try to find a better source. Breadeater9000 (talk) 00:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

::@Sundayclose I have found a reliable, scholarly source. It is a written university paper from Democritus University of Thrace. Titled 'Labeling of Derogatory Words in Modern Greek Dictionaries' and written by Angeliki Efthymiou, Zoe Gavriilidou and Eleni Papadopoulou. I am a little unsure with how to link it here, as the source site converts into a file when I click on it. Apologies as I am very new to editing on Wikipedia. Sorry to ask, but how would I be able to link to this? If you google "Αράπης meaning" it is the third source down on DeGruyter. Breadeater9000 (talk) 00:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:::I added it.. The Greek Wikipedia has an article in it. Lots of citations. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chinesium Chinesium] and [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chinkware Chinkware] to the list Marshalbacalhau (talk) 19:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

:{{notdone}} Wikis, including Wiktionary, are not reliable sources. See WP:RS. Sundayclose (talk) 19:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add this information to the table, at chategory O, I have included all the information I know about the subject. Thank you!

Term: "Orezar"

Location or origin: Romania

Targets: Primely Chinese, or other Asians

Meaning, origin and notes: It means a person who eats rice on a regular basis, meant as a stereotype for Asians who eat a lot of rice. It is used as an insult, but can also be used in a casual conversation as it is a funny stereotype, although it should be used with caution as people have feelings. 2A02:2F04:500B:500:3019:D177:59D2:B8E9 (talk) 01:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ObserveOwl (talk) 16:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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I would like to add Niggy to the list of slurs, it means the same as the N word. ForesideNinja (talk) 16:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Citations needed as well(3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 21:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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add Nilla to N. meaning: white person. source; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nilla

also nilla is a type of cracker, also known as a slur for white people

{{not done}}: See this essay (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 21:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Mongoloid - relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, SE Asia, and the Arctic region of North America. 86.175.14.65 (talk) 14:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ultraodan (talk) 14:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

The claim that the word 'pilak' being a regional word for money is extremely misleading in context. While it does mean money in Tausug, the word itself has gained enough negative connotation that non-Tausug speakers (who are the majority population) will never not interpret the word as a slur. The archived request "Addition of pilak" has linked sources.

To drive the point home, no white person would seriously use "Negro" to refer to black people while not intending to offend. Even if it just means "black" in Spanish, it would be unacceptable to claim that the word is simply a 'regional' word for 'black' in the entry for "Negro". AnderGapoh (talk) 00:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

The article says "Also used by radical Québécois in self-reference, as in the seminal 1968 book White Niggers of America."

Speaking as a Québecois, the only times in Québec history where the words "W.N." above have ever been used together was in Pierre Vallières' book, and it was only ever used for shock value to draw attention at the historically unfair treatment of the French by the English in Canada in his book. While, in French, the word "nègre" is pejorative and considered an insult, it is often used by authors of Haitian descent, such as Danny Lafferière's book titled "Comment faire l'amour avec un nègre sans se fatiguer" (How to make love to a N. without tiring), and French-speakers are not as sanguine nor unanimous as English speakers in regards to the degree of offensiveness of the world (especially in France and Haitian creole), as culture-language perspectives differ over such sensible matters.

I therefore believe it's not exactly correct in the context in which it's quoted in the Wikipedia article. 216.137.166.36 (talk) 21:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:The entry is cited to a reliable source. Do you have a reliable source with information to the contrary? Sundayclose (talk) 00:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

==Dolphin==

The “Dolphin” word is a word used to describe the vicious animal that will rape anyone in its way

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 23:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

The "Dago" word is a slur referring to Italians, not Portuguese or Spanish people. 2001:818:E924:D000:E011:17EA:1066:F141 (talk) 12:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

:The entry is confirmed by reliable sources. Do you have equally reliable sources that it is inaccurate? Sundayclose (talk) 14:28, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

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I request for where it says that the word, "Abeed" means an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the Arab slave trade" to be changed to "Arabic word for slave, associated with the trans-Saharan slave trade" in order to be more specific? 2A0A:EF40:134C:A501:204A:FD5F:6A70:B173 (talk) 17:19, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

I request for where it says that the targets of the N word are "Black people, especially African-Americans" to be changed to "Black people, especially African-Americans

and African-Caribbeans" since both African-Americans and African-Caribbeans were called "niggers" during the Atlantic slave trade? 2A0A:EF40:12ED:F601:64E6:82E5:21F4:AE8 (talk) 20:32, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 14:18, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

I request for where it says that the word "Abid/Abeed" means an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the Arab slave trade" to be changed to an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the trans-Saharan slave trade" in order to be more specific since there were many Arab slave trades such as the Indian Ocean slave trade, Comoros slave trade, Zanzibar slave trade, Red Sea slave trade, and the Libyan slave trade. 2A0A:EF40:13BC:E001:B47C:308:DB71:14A1 (talk) 16:00, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

::As already stated above: {{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be madeSundayclose (talk) 18:31, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

I request for where it says that the racial slur "Abid/Abeed" means an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the Arab slave trade" to be changed to an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the trans-Saharan slave trade" only if the same sources that say the word "Abeed" is a racial slur also say that the "Arab slave trade" started in the 7th century and ended in the 20th century since that was when the trans-Saharan slave trade started and ended, not the other Arab slave trades. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:7C83:CBFD:D9AB:903B (talk) 20:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:IP2A0A, You are being disruptive by repeatedly making the same request without citing a reliable source after being told repeatedly that it will not be added without a source. You are located in an English-speaking country so I'm sure you understand the words "reliable source". For more information about Wikipedia's standards for a reliable source read WP:RS. If you make this request again it will be deleted, and you will be defending your disruptive edits at WP:ANI. You then could lose your editing privileges. Sundayclose (talk) 23:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

I request for where it says that the racial slur "Abid/Abeed" means an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the Arab slave trade" to be changed to an "Arabic word for slave, associated with the trans-Saharan slave trade" because the Wikipedia page for the slur "Abeed" mentions that the word, Abeed is associated with trans-Saharan slave trade when referring to its usage in Sudan. You can read the Wikipedia page for the word "Abeed" yourself and I'll be right. Also I give you permission to revert my other edit requests.2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:7C83:CBFD:D9AB:903B (talk) 16:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

:Reviewing the citation for "Abid", the [https://archive.org/details/war-of-visions-conflict-of-identities-in-the-sudan-francis-deng/page/n807/mode/1up?q=abid first one] does not mention slave trade at all nor how old the word is or how long ago it was used as a slur. The second citation does not mention "abid" nor "abeen". I removed the reference to slave trade and the second citation. Present a specific citation for any other changes. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:23, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

The meaning of the words abeed/abd to meaning servant/servants of god as well not just meaning black people. It depends on the contexts. In most of the time it is used in a religious manner hinting to how we are gods (Allahs) servants and we are here on this earth to serve and obey worship him as well as do good. The words abd and abeed are mainly used in religious context like explained above. Thairmo (talk) 15:53, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

mazdoor/majdoor (lit. Worker/laborer) is used as a slur against bihari people by other people of the Indian subcontinent. It should be added to this list. 2405:201:4029:EFF0:F792:7A74:7FFF:23B5 (talk) 20:49, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 13:32, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Bhaiya/Bhaiye are ethnic slurs used by people of Indian states of Punjab Haryana Himachal and uttarakhand against people from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.

It should be added. 2405:201:4029:EFF0:F792:7A74:7FFF:23B5 (talk) 20:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 13:33, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Bimaru (Short of Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh) is an ethnic slur used by South Indian people against North Indian people generally. 2405:201:4029:EFF0:F792:7A74:7FFF:23B5 (talk) 20:57, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 13:36, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

In an episode of Fawlty Towers, Basil uses the term "bint" which I understand is refers to a woman from an Arabian country. (From names such as Fatima bint Hussein). Unfortunately, I don't recall which episode and I don't know whether John Cleese could be considered a reliable source. So the best I can do is leave the suggestion here. Humpster (talk) 00:14, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/house_nigger 2603:7080:8C00:F2:5D32:35FA:2475:C130 (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Lipski was a slur used against Jewish people around 1880s England. In particular Jack the Ripper used it. Israel Lipski Trozenator (talk) 08:19, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

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I suggest adding the term 'tatta' to the list of ethnic slurs. This term is used within the Surinamese community and has a negative connotation, especially when directed at Dutch people. It is often used to belittle or insult someone based on their ethnicity. I welcome feedback and discussion from other editors to ensure its appropriate inclusion. Jtvtoussaint (talk) 22:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. cyberdog958^Talk 23:04, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

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I request for where it says that the targets of the N-word are "Black people, especially African-Americans" to be changed to "Black people, especially African-Americans and African-Caribbeans" since the word "nigger" dates back to the Atlantic slave trade and both ethnic groups were affected by that slave trade. Also the N-word is offensive in English-speaking countries and there are many English-speaking countries in the Caribbean. 2A0A:EF40:138B:7901:89A2:A0D0:B19:93DB (talk) 13:11, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 21:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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spear chucker isnt included 2601:602:8200:1C70:C7D:976C:C02D:FD1D (talk) 04:40, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 06:23, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Is there any sources that could be used to cite the addition of Eurofag to this list? 47.231.236.57 (talk) 05:28, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

:You're welcome to look yourself and cite them here. Sundayclose (talk) 17:17, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

It's not uncommon to use the names of ethnic groups as insults, or in insults. For example, Amalek (as an insult), Gyp (as an accusation), Hun (as an insult), Indian giver (as an insult), Philistine (as an insult), Vandal (as an insult), Vandalism (as an accusation), Welch (as an accusation), etc. The list currently includes Gyp and Hun, but omits most of the others. Why?64.118.122.72 (talk) 05:49, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sundayclose (talk) 14:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::Ann Gibbons's "Busting Myths of Origin," in *Science* no. 6339, notes that "the name “Philistine” is still a slur."

::Andreas Musolff's "Wilhelm II’s ‘Hun Speech’ and Its Alleged Resemiotization During World War I" mostly concerns the use of "Hun" as a slur, but also mentions the use of "Goth" and "Vandal" as slurs. 64.118.122.72 (talk) 02:36, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I question if we want to start including slurs against ethnic groups that have not existed for centuries or millennia. "Hun" is already listed. "Philistine" refers to a people who have been gone for about 2,500 years and currently is used derogatorily to refer to a type of person, not an ethnic. "Goth" and "Vandal" also have cease to exist as a distinct people for a long time and both words can be used to insult people of any ethnic. Although the use of these people ethnic names being used as insults does imply they were "bad" people, I feel it is outside the scope of this list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 00:08, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

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i wanna add noodle nigger Noodlenigg (talk) 15:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

:Please provide reliable sources that support the adding the slur. The citation(s) needs to show that the slur is culturally significant, not that someone just used it. See WP:CULTURALREFS. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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As already hashed out in the edit summaries, on 8 January 2025{{mdash}}IIRC as part of trying to win a separate argument on Wiktionary{{mdash}}{{user|Mx. Granger}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ethnic_slurs&oldid=1268188310 unilaterally removed a sourced entry] on "laowai" ({{lang|zh|老外}}) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ethnic_slurs&diff=next&oldid=776929554 added] on 24 April 2017 by {{user|David Straub}}. The original entry was reffed to [https://web.archive.org/web/20090816153423/http://beyondwellbeing.com/al/1998/01/the_laowai_racism_and_personal.html this blog entry] starting

:"Laowai". That's pronounced "Lao-why." It means foreigner. To me, it means "dog." It means an individual who isn't really human. That's how it feels when the Chinese say it in reference to me. They never say it directly to me, always among themselves.

That was quickly removed per {{sc|wp:blog}}, but the entry was kept as we have an entire well-sourced article on the term. A separate offline source was later added instead. In Archive 8, {{user|Jamesrlforsyth}} pointed to it as a slur and, in Archive 13, {{user|WH 42.2.101.212}} opined that they felt it wasn't.

The removal by Mx. Granger was based on misreading, selectively reading, or misunderstanding the information available about the offline source. The edit summaries claimed

:the cited source says it has a neutral to slightly positive connotation

and

:the source says "the term laowai is generally regarded by Chinese respondents as a neutral-complimentary expression referring to non-Chinese" and clearly does not support the claim that it's a slur.

[https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/2377 The actual publicly available abstract] clearly states it is "more complimentary" than the terms used for non-white Western groups, whose "other traits are used... for example their nationality, skin color, or other features". It "express[es] a willingness to cultivate a friendly relationship" but has the "dual purpose" of "separating an 'out-group' from the 'in-group'" in a way more pronounced than actually neutral terms for foreigners. This is precisely the pejorative sense that Dashan (the single most famous Westerner integrated into Chinese culture over the initial decades of opening up) notes when he complains that it's unhelpful othering... a slur. All that is clear from the misrepresented/misunderstood abstract.

It's unclear Mx. Granger bothered, but the full article is available via {{sc|wp:library}}. The source's author is clearly trying to fashion a survey among some Chinese{{mdash}}mostly in fairly cosmopolitan Jiangsu (2127){{mdash}}to say no one means anything by the term except friendly inclusion (2137)... Nonetheless, talking about their own survey and other researchers', it can't help pointing out along the way that it is "not used as an address term" (2120) but almost always for Chinese to talk among themselves about foreigners; it "originally meant 'layman' or an unprofessional person in a particular field... now widely used and can be translated as... 'outsider'" (2120); it "is considered by many non-Chinese to be a pejorative term equivalent to "a taunt" or "a gibe"... conveying Chinese people's hostility, even xenophobia towards them" (2120); "many commercial departments in Beijing are required to avoid using laowai to refer to foreigners" and "some Chinese salespersons have even received fines or cut wages as a consequence" (2121); it "embodies coexistence [sic] of intimacy and alienation, respect and contempt" (2123); it "has a complicated mixture of meanings including friendliness and hospitality, appreciation and admiration, as well as depreciation and exclusion..." and "is a slightly derogatory term" (2123); "use of laowai entails a continuum that centers on a neutral meaning but extends to two extremes of complimentary and derogatory meaning" (2123); "generally speaking, Chinese respondents use laowai when referring to non-Chinese whose physical features and personality traits are quite different from native Chinese" (2133); "it is highly likely that Chinese tend to include those who are perceived as similar to themselves in the big family of the East, and often in a Confucian cultural sphere" and "compared with Caucasians and other races, these Asian people are much closer to the Chinese; thus they are not real foreigners or laowai" (2133{{ndash}}2134); "Chinese respondents [to the author's survey] who have frequent contact with foreigners, such as foreign-language tour guides and foreign service specialists, prefer to distinguish non-Chinese by using the exact nationality rather than laowai" (2137).

In other words, like our sourced article on the term already explains, it's (of course) not nearly as hostile as some other terms like "monkey" ({{lang|zh|猴子}}, {{translit|zh|houzi}}) for the Vietnamese or "f'in' Americans" ({{lang|zh|美国佬}}, {{translit|zh|meiguolao}}) but it is a low grade slur along the lines of Charlie, honkey, or Jap. It's an explicitly exclusionary term the Chinese use among themselves, know the subjects can get bent out of shape about, take care to avoid in actually polite situations, but generally feel among themselves that the subjects should just suck up since they consider it simply "descriptive" of the subjects' "nature". As much as Mao may've intended for their paper to explain "nothing was meant by it" or that typical Jiangsu prejudices in the 2000s and early 2010s were actually oikophobic and favorable towards laowais, it still does function as a scholarly reference for foreigners being mildly to highly offended by the term, some Chinese using it precisely with racial animus, and all surveyed Chinese using it as unalterable race-based othering... since that's precisely what the term is.

That said, some people clearly disagree so I'll just leave it to the rest of you to decide whether it does belong here or whether laowai needs to be rebuilt to clarify how, no, really, it's totally cool. — LlywelynII 14:02, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{replyto|LlywelynII}} what is your brief and neutral statement? At over 6,400 bytes, the statement above (from the {{tlx|rfc}} tag to the next timestamp) is far too long for {{user|Legobot}} to handle, and so it is not being shown correctly at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Language and linguistics. The RfC may also not be publicised through WP:FRS until a shorter statement is provided. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: The word laowai shouldn't be included in this list, because it's not a slur. The source that was cited in the article doesn't say that it's a slur, and instead states that "the term laowai is generally regarded by Chinese respondents as a neutral-complimentary expression referring to non-Chinese." (That's a quote from the article itself, not the abstract.) I don't think the blog post linked above is a reliable source for the word's meaning. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 23:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: It is very unclear to me why this is an RFC. If there's some debate in editing, have the involved editors already tried to work it out on this Talk page? Pathawi (talk) 03:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)