Talk:List of oldest living people#Removal of unverified claims

Whilst I personally don't mind it, it wasn't agreed upon. Jake11223344 (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:Alfred please stop vandalising pages. Jake11223344 (talk) 14:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Fauja Singh who is still living at the age of 114 years is missing on this page. Here's his wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh as a proof. Tajinder9 (talk) 16:54, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:As noted elsewhere, multiple times, his age is not verified (and never will be). Just another longevity claim. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:41, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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A suggestion to add the following person as the old alive person in the world:

Name: Shri Swami Sivananda

Country: India

Reference:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/111034318.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst 184.147.82.203 (talk) 03:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:As noted multiple times in the archives of this talk page, and elsewhere, he is not eligible for this list and is included with other unverified claims at Longevity claims. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 04:24, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

I would like to merge List of oldest living people into Oldest_people Because Oldest_people already contains the first 10 entries in the oldest living people list and it contains a lot of bigger chronological entries, and this oldest living people article just contains duplicate information from oldest people article along with a few extra additions to the lists and I think that this article is unnecessary and it should be merged into Oldest_people 54rt678 (talk | contribs) 20:51, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

: i found this debate while doing research for context in this topic to better understand how i should proceed with an afd. I think This article is well kept and cited. I think that it should not be merged so i OpposeScooby453w (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

::that has nothing to do with this article by itself being unnecessary since the beginning of this table in a different article and it is confusing that there are so many different articles relating to the oldest people but they are all basically the same 54rt678 (talk | contribs) 21:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose the merge. The other page is more for the history and chronology of the oldest people while this is a record of the current oldest. Useight (talk) 22:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose the merge. per Useight. N1TH Music (talk) 14:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose the merge. per Useight. Need I say more? Stephen"Zap" (talk) 19:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:@DerbyCountyinNZ, what do you think? 54rt678 (talk | contribs) 16:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Per Useight. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose per Useight, and suggest closing now per WP:SNOW. Jusdafax (talk) 09:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose the merge per Jusdafax. Rklingmann (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and SNOW close, per the above. Renerpho (talk) 10:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Adding a hatnote that links to List of the verified oldest people (and explains the difference) wouldn't hurt though. Renerpho (talk) 10:18, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::I have added a hatnote. Renerpho (talk) 11:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::However, I would strongly support merging Oldest people and List of the verified oldest people. Unlike the merger that was proposed here, those are both about the oldest verified people of all time, and largely overlap in content. Renerpho (talk) 16:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Comment This debate should probably be closed- there is no support for this proposal

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Saalumarada Thimmakka Born on June 30th 1911, 113 years old 199.96.168.100 (talk) 11:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{not done}} Neither listed by GRG[https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/world-supercentenarian-rankings-list/] nor at LongeviQuest,[https://longeviquest.com/?s=Thimmakka] and thus unverified. Renerpho (talk) 12:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

::The sources given in Saalumarada Thimmakka (Hindustan Times etc) are not reliable for longevity claims. Renerpho (talk) 12:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Klavdiya Gadyuchkina (born 5 December 1910) ([https://longeviquest.com/supercentenarian/klavdiya-gadyuchkina/ Klavdiya Gadyuchkina - LongeviQuest]) has been validated by the [https://europeansupercentenarians.org/ European Supercentenarian Organisation] (ESO), but is yet to be recognised by LongeviQuest. Should she be added? Spectritus (talk) 14:43, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:Klavdiya Gadyuchkina was previously on the list, as her age wasvalidated by the GRG. However, she is no longer validated by the GRG, and the validation from the ESO is a low-level validation, so I think she should stay off the list. PrezDough (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

::@PrezDough Okay. Do you know why she was devalidated? I didn't even know it was possible. Spectritus (talk) 08:36, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:::{{re|Spectritus}} I doubt that details would be made public. But remember that these evaluations aren't fool proof. If evidence is called into question, or new evidence finds that an age claim may be false, of course the validation can be removed. Renerpho (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

::::@Renerpho Okay. Spectritus (talk) 20:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)