Talk:List of oratorios#Question

I've noticed that the descriptions of some of the oratorios listed here use the word "composed". Why? Toccata quarta (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

:That's because I don't have the date for the premiere. Their articles only give the date of composition. Some entries say things like "recorded 1990" when they appear to have only been performed on record. I put "Unless otherise indicated, all dates are those when the work was first performed" in the lede. But perhaps there's a better way of handling this. Voceditenore (talk) 16:32, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

::Premieres can be covered in individual articles. Dates of composition are far more important here, and it's always been that way in lists of compositions on Wikipedia. Toccata quarta (talk) 17:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

:::On WikiProject Opera, we use dates of premieres rather than composition unless there is a big discrepancy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WPO#Navigation_boxes]. Plus, many of the articles for these oratorios give only the dates of the premiere. I have no objection to changing it to date of composition being the default, provided the ones that don't have such a date are annotated with the premiere. Alternatively, you could add both date of composition and date of premiere to each entry. Perhaps ask for more opinions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music? Voceditenore (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

::::I'm not an oratorio fan, yet off the top of my head I know a couple of cases (Elias for one) where the date of composition completion is significantly different from the premiere performance (i.e. situations where the composer amended things after the first performance). Is it overkill to include both? -- kosboot (talk) 18:20, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::I'd say the more information the better. I just knocked this together today, as I thought there was a need for it. (See my comments as Talk:Oratorio.) I'm hoping others will develop it, as I.m not a big oratorio fan either. I think it's a good idea to add both dates of composition and dates of premiere, especially if there is any discrepancy, and significant revisions, as long as its clear to the reader what each date is for. Voceditenore (talk) 21:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Elsewhere, Theodora is dated as 1750. This is more likely to be right as this is famously a late work by Handel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvanTheGrumpy (talk • contribs) 21:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

It's listed as anime on the composer's, Hayato Matsuo's page, presumably it's background music? AndrewTeal (talk) 19:15, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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