Talk:Madras (cloth)

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Where can one find a source for Madras cloth? Unable to locate on the web.

I have been looking for "madras" cloth off and on, for over thirty years. The article being considered for deletion is correct about the use of bleeding dyes and a different look after each wash. It shouldn't be delected at this point. I cannot vouch for the reference to The OUtsiders,but that is easily verifiable. INcidentally, that IS a reference -- another reason it should not be deleted. it is in the outsiders. i read the book ♥ jewelzz

I recently went to India and although I never did meet with them, I finally located a group of local artists in the Chennai area who said by email they do make the orignal bleeding dye type cloth. I have not got a picture from them, but that's a thought. They did not dye cloth on a commercial scale.

I will see if I can dig up their website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.47.243.132 (talk) 05:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Please find one of the largest sources of madras fabric online at http://Fabriconlinestore.com and http://Patchwork-madras.weebly.com

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Source

I found it in an 1897 Sears and Roebuck [http://books.google.nl/books?id=pavHOWOWKEEC&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=zephyr+percal+sears&source=bl&ots=Su7T4MVWl5&sig=AsQ8Yc0joH7qavf5JPVXl4MMqNw&hl=nl&ei=kKWoStrMB43M-QbRvIy1Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false catalogue] now on the net when I looked for 'zephyr' as a type of cloth: ' Zephyr is the very best grade light weight imported Madras cloth'. So I think you should look into old books if you want to know more. Glatisant (talk) 07:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

It's also mentioned in chapter 4 of "Norwegian Wood" by Haruki Murakami. "(...) and a guy in a madras jacket called out to her (...)" Michau (talk) 02:01, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Allmost entire article copied from external source?

{{Resolved|Article has been totally rewritten since then.}}

AFAIKS everything after the first two paragraphs is simply copied from the article linked to: http://www.orvis.com/news/products-we-love/checkered-past-a-brief-history-of-the-madras-plaid-shirt/ ....

SajmonDK (talk) 12:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

:Yep...the whole thing sounds like it was lifted from a retail catalog.... PurpleChez (talk) 17:52, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

:This article is simply a cut-and-paste job from the Orvis catalogue. An actual Wikipedia article on this subject remains to be written.--71.36.99.75 (talk) 10:07, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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I recently went to India and although I never did meet with them, I finally located a group of local artists in the Chennai area who said by email they do make the orignal bleeding dye type cloth. I have not got a picture from them, but that's a thought. They did not dye cloth on a commercial scale.

I will see if I can dig up their website.

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Additional sources

Some sources probably worth getting ahold of:

  • {{cite dissertation |type=PhD |last=Evenson |first=Sandra Lee |title=A History of Indian Madras Manufacture and Shifting Patterns of Exchange |date=September 1994 |publisher=University of Minnesota |url= https://www.proquest.com/openview/310adde90056a0721223ffca05e7eeab/1 |url-access=subscription}} Some of the content is available for free, maybe enough to use. The rest might be accessible via The Wikipedia Library, if they have a deal with ProQuest by now.
  • {{cite book |last=Kriger |first=Colleen E. |title=Cloth in West African History |date=2006 |series="African Archaeology" series |location=Lanham, Maryland |publisher=AltaMira Press |isbn=9780759104228}} A prepress version of some of the material is available here, as a conference paper: {{cite conference |last=Kriger |first=Colleen E. |title='Guinea Cloth': Production and Consumption of Cotton Textiles in West Africa Before and During the Atlantic Slave Trade |conference=Global Economic History Network (GEHN) Conference |publisher=University of Padua |date=17–19 November 2005 |via=lse.ac.uk |url= https://www.lse.ac.uk/Economic-History/Assets/Documents/Research/GEHN/Padua/PADUAKrieger.pdf }} It was also presented at another conference in Helsinki, but the text is the same. (Relevance: much "Guinea cloth" was madras from India.)

 — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  05:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC)