Talk:Magnum P.I. (2018 TV series)

File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Magnum, P.I. § Requested move 10 December 2020. TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2020_November_1#Magnum_PI_(reboot_2018) this Help Desk question]. I just now saw it. Apparently, the person wants to be able to do what is possible on the pages for MacGyver (2016 TV series) and Hawaii Five-0 (2010 TV series). I see that the episode lists for those series are separate articles.

— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 00:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Vchimpanzee}} From reading the message at the help desk it sounds like the person is requesting an article be created at Magnum P.I. (2018 TV series, season 3) (currently a redirect). I'm currently working on one here but it's not quite ready for the main space yet. I'm hoping to get the article finished soon. If I misunderstood and they were requesting a split to List of Magnum P.I. (2018 TV series) episodes I checked at the beginning of this season and it did not yet meet the size requirements for MOS:TVSPLIT so it likely still wouldn't only four episodes later. TheDoctorWho (talk) 00:55, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

::I think the difference between the Magnum article and the other two is that all episodes are listed separately from the main article. Are we ready for that?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:01, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

::Actually, the request could only be for the separate list of all episodes, because I am more than two months behind in the archives, and those four episodes would not have aired yet.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:11, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Vchimpanzee}} MOS:TVSPLIT says that an television series should not be split into a List of Episodes (LoE) page (List of Magnum P.I. (2018 TV series) episodes in this case or what would be the equivalent of List of Hawaii Five-0 (2010 TV series) episodes and List of MacGyver (2016 TV series) episodes) until the parent article reaches 50-60kb of readable prose. Checking it now as of Season 3 episode 5 the readable prose comes out to 6529b (the equivalent of 6.52 kb). Since those five episodes aren't included in the size adding the assumed 1kb of readable prose per episode (as suggested by Wikipedia:Article splitting (television)) it would still only come out to 11.52kb which doesn't yet justify division per WP:SPLIT. Assuming that the third season gets split out soon it would lower the prose size back to 6-7kb. TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:30, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

::::Although I accounted for the difference in the episode table I did forget to estimate that the cast section was not included in that number (as it's a bulleted list) and none of the viewing figures are included either as they're in tables. With those two things it would probably justify a split towards the end of the season (would have been the beginning if the first two seasons weren't already split). TheDoctorWho (talk) 01:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

:::::There must be a way to solve the person's problem. Anyway, I put a message on the IP's talk page.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|Vchimpanzee}} I mean essentially there's not a way to do anything immediately because what the person is asking for goes against the long-established Manual of Style. I believe it would be worth splitting if and only if the series is renewed for a fourth season because the season pages. The third season will conclude at 56 episodes which is at the suggested 50-60 split but I don't think it'd be worth it since they've already been split to seasons. As soon as it's renewed for a fourth I'd support a split because it would put it well over the 60 suggested. If someone disagrees with me I'd be open to discuss but I just haven't seen a valid reason to ignore MOS at this point. TheDoctorWho (talk) 23:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

:::::::I was referring to the printing out of each season. There may be a way for the person to do that.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 23:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Just a quick inquiry, MOS:TVSPLIT usually recommends about 50-60 episodes before splitting to an episode list but I imagine that this is generally valid for an article where season articles do not already exist. Since season articles do already exist there are no plot summaries on this article which significantly reduces its prose size. A quick check of the current readable prose comes out to 10kb, which is still well short of the 50-60kb needed to split the article. Given this it seems like a split isn't yet justified, and likely won't be even once the fourth season has completed airing. If anyone has any other opinions on this or believes that is justified at this time I'm open to discuss. Thanks, TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:27, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

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