Talk:MashApps#reqmovetag

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Requested move

:The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move. Cúchullain t/c 15:17, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

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MashApps → {{no redirect|Mashapp}} – The term "mashapp" is a neologism for a kind of web application. As such it is not a proper name (i.e. not the name of a specific product or company). I think the same principles that have us use lower case for terms that are commonly acronyms would apply to this word. A decision to retitle would also involve replacing all occurences of "MashApp" with "mashapp" (and at the beginning of a sentence, "Mashapp") Jojalozzo 22:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

=Survey=

:Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

  • Support as nom. The typography is cute and I like how it echoes the mashup of the two words but it took me a while to determine that it was not a product but just a common noun. I think we should avoid such confusion and stick to a plain style here rather than get cute. Jojalozzo 22:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose/Support - CamelCase is not prohibited, and is editors choice. I see no predominant use either way. --Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 01:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
  • :Do you mean it's an editor's choice whether to capitalize a common Noun or not, to mash up and capitalize a CommonNounPhrase if they like? Jojalozzo 01:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
  • ::I'm saying that I've seen both ways, [http://www.cordys.com/cordys_mashapps_now_available_through_the_google_apps_marketplace MashApps], and Mashapps ([http://mash-app.com/ Mash-App] even), in different places. Common nouns are not capitalized as a general rule.--Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 02:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
  • :::Ah, you don't mean it's a Wikipedia editor's choice but a wide-world editor's choice. But isn't that always the case? Wide world editors have a wide range of purposes and ends they are attempting to achieve and these are not usually the goals and ends of Wikipedia. MashApp may suit a wide world editor because it's cute and attracts readers but I don't consider those to be primary encyclopedic purposes. Jojalozzo 15:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose – I don't find any sources with the lowercase A. If we're going to have an article on this, I don't see how we can make up a style different from anything in sources. As with camelCase, I don't think it's an issue of what's a proper name, as camelCase doesn't imply that; in a sentence, it would be "mashApp", I would think. But it's so thin on refs that it's not clear it's even notable; seems to be mostly about a particular product MashApp Composer. Dicklyon (talk) 04:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
  • :I don't find any reliable sources, period. Please show us what sources you are finding.
  • :A [https://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=mashapp+-site%3Acordys.com+-site%3Amash-app.com+-site%3Ayoutube.com+-site%3Afacebook.com&oq=mashapp+-site%3Acordys.com+-site%3Amash-app.com+-site%3Ayoutube.com+-site%3Afacebook.com&gs_l=serp.12...84493.88462.0.90561.17.17.0.0.0.0.140.1545.15j2.17.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.60nB_vFVtIo google search] for "mashapp" that eliminates the Sony Ericcson app web site, the Cordys app web site, facebook, and youtube results in
  • :* references to Cordys' product, MashApp, referenced in this article
  • :* references to "MashApp" in Software AG's Aris [http://www.mashzone.com/en/Features/179578.html MashZone] "business mashup" tool
  • :* an [http://www.appannie.com/app/ios/mashapp/ iPhone app] for mashing photos (not a mash app) called "MashApp"
  • :If that search is restricted only to news and books, nothing shows up. The only source this article cites is Cordys' web site and they use the term "mash-up application" as a generic term, probably to protect their product trade name. Perhaps we should use that. Jojalozzo 15:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

=Discussion=

:Any additional comments:

  • comment are you sure without camelcase, it isn't mash app or mash-app [https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22mash-app%22] ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.247.242 (talkcontribs) 04:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • :"mash-app" [https://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%2B%22mash-app%22+-site%3Amash-app.com&oq=%2B%22mash-app%22+-site%3Amash-app.com&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.4716.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.UYcVrJHql38 doesn't show up on google if we eliminate mash-app.com] (where it's probably a side effect of available domain names), Sony Ericsson Mash-App tool. "mash app" is more common but I don't know if it's more common than "mashapp". Since "mashapp" is closest to what we have now, I'm inclined to stick with it. If someone wants to make a case for "mash app" I'm open to it. Jojalozzo 15:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.