Talk:May Queen#Oldest

Is it not highly vain to post a picture of oneself on a fact-based encyclopaedia such as this? As it is in my mind. Why does she not go all-out and say THE Recent and Most Glorious May Queen, Her Highness Eleanor Teasdale" in the caption!

--Leowatkins 18:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

: Maybe, but it is a useful picture on this article - though a wider angle would be good. Thehalfone (talk) 15:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I suspect many May Queen festivals claim to be the oldest. Citation for Brentham's claim? Dave.Dunford 09:11, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

:Proposal to split article into two, one article to present the minimal information content on "May Queen" as a mythological figure and the other two present a less general content on "May Queen". There is a claim that the two subjects are related but, at best, they can only be related in locations where both concepts are relevant. Gregkaye (talk) 06:55, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

:: There's nothing in the article about a mythical figure apart from the first sentence. I don't see what there is to split. Bhny (talk) 17:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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I propose to merge the King of the May article to this May Queen article. Probably to sit as a section/sub-section. I suggest this because the King of the May article meets about every WP:MERGEREASON. Including:

• Short text. The "May King" article is incredibly short. And doesn't seem likely to expand. It has been a 2-line DICDEF article for 13 years. And there don't seem to be sufficient reliable references to expand it beyond that state.
• Context. The "May King" article can really only be read in the context of the May Day and May Queen articles. In order to understand what the "May King" article is about, the reader really has to read the other two. Or at least one of them. Which is easier to do if merged.
• Duplicate/Overlap. The "May King" article largely duplicates the scope of the "May Queen" article. In that its about a springtime tradition (based in historic custom and ritual) where someone dresses up and parades through a place to celebrate and represent fertility...

In short, unless there are other thoughts (or someone can find sources to expand the "May King" article into something that can stand on its own), I'm inclined to merge the limited content here. Perhaps to a "related personifications" section. Guliolopez (talk) 16:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

:{{Resolved1}}. Not having heard any other thoughts or suggestions, I've gone ahead and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=May_Queen&type=revision&diff=976752432&oldid=974196512 completed the merge]. Closing thread. Guliolopez (talk) 19:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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We'd probably need a better reference than a defunct link to hayfield.uk.net. As it appears to have been founded in 1928 and there are numerous older festivals I'll remove this statement unless anyone objects. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 12:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

The article seems to have mixed the two concepts of Queen of the May (the tree Prunus Padus) which has roots to pre-historic times in British Celtic folklore (cf. Robert Graves' The White Queen and Frazer's The Golden Bough) with the modern day May Queen celebrations which derive from it. The fact that the time of the celebration is also in the month of May hasn't helped. Jatrius (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Google say there were quite a few tunes named "May Queen Polka" in 1800s: [https://books.google.com/books?id=VQdt_ClLsMEC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=%22Laughing+Waltz%22+Rivinac#v=onepage&q=%22Laughing%20Waltz%22%20Rivinac&f=false], [https://tunearch.org/wiki/May_Queen_Polka], [https://loc.getarchive.net/media/may-queen-polkathe-3], [https://www.ebay.com/itm/266621428577], [https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupid?key=ha101809081], [https://www.loc.gov/item/2023817071], --Altenmann >talk 06:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)