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mecca is a province. Mecca is not a city a capital and a province.
Saudia Arabia
Mecca and Medina 81.106.208.166 (talk) 18:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Founded by Ibrahim and Ismail?
Islamic jurisprudence is not a primary source. We don't even know if these two really existed. Please remove this 2A00:79E1:2E00:5B01:20F2:F92B:859D:4364 (talk) 14:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
:The article reads "In the Islamic view, the beginnings of Mecca are attributed ...". The tru statement is that Muslims believe this. Whether their belief is correct is not for us to say. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2025
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Change “ Muhammad was born in Mecca in 570, and thus Islam has been inextricably linked with it ever since. He was born into the faction of Banu Hashim in the ruling tribe of Quraysh. It was in the nearby mountain cave of Hira on Jabal al-Nour that Muhammad began receiving divine revelations from God through the archangel Jibreel in 610, according to Islamic tradition.”
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“According to Islamic tradition, Muhammad was born in Mecca in 570, and thus Islam has been inextricably linked with it ever since. According to Islamic tradition he was born into the faction of Banu Hashim in the ruling tribe of Quraysh. It was in the nearby mountain cave of Hira on Jabal al-Nour that Muhammad began receiving divine revelations from God through the archangel Jibreel in 610, according to Islamic tradition.”
Otherwise Wikipedia would be claiming something as a historical fact without any sources 2A02:C7C:E189:C200:B5E6:6340:412D:890E (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{not done}}: we don't need to attribute to tradition what is easily attributable to secondary RS. M.Bitton (talk) 00:09, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2025
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In the islamic narrative part in the history section it should include this:
the ancient Iranians used to visit Mecca for a pilgrimage,{{citeweb|title=مشکلات حاجیان از زبان سفرنامه نویسان|url=https://hawzah.net/fa/Magazine/View/4789/4814/40072/%D9%85%D8%B4%DA%A9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AC%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A7%D8%B2_%D8%B2%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%B3%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%87_%D9%86%D9%88%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86?utm_source=chatgpt.com}} they used to bring gifts with them during the pilgrimages.{{Cite book|title=تاريخ الخميس فى أحوال أنفس نفيس|url=https://books.google.iq/books?id=QlKG9Ql4_QwC&pg=PA111&dq=%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86+%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%83+%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsvN_M94mOAxVwh_0HHZ5_EKoQ6AF6BAgHEAM#v=onepage&q=%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%83%20%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9&f=false|pages=111}} one of them was Sasan who was the grandfather of Ardashir.{{Cite book|title=مروج الذهب ومعادن الجوهر جزء ١|url=https://www.aljawadain.iq/library/books/single?book_id=926|pages=242}}{{Cite book|title=زعماء مكة|url=http://shiaonlinelibrary.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%AA%D8%A8/4314_%D8%B2%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AE-%D9%86%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%AD-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9_4|pages=4}}{{Cite book|title=تاريخ الكامل|url=https://books.google.iq/books?id=tDpDZYs41gkC&pg=RA1-PA92&dq=%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86+%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%83+%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsvN_M94mOAxVwh_0HHZ5_EKoQ6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%83%20%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9&f=falsehttps://books.google.iq/books?id=tDpDZYs41gkC&pg=RA1-PA92&dq=%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86+%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%83+%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsvN_M94mOAxVwh_0HHZ5_EKoQ6AF6BAgGEAM#v=onepage&q=%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86%20%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%83%20%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9&f=false|pages=92}} Tuffmaster (talk) 11:30, 24 June 2025 (UTC)