Talk:Microchess#Requested move 7 February 2024

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 07:00, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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:Microchess → {{no redirect|Microchess (software)}} – Microchess as a chess variant is mentioned in several books, including the Oxford History of Board Games, The Encyclopedia of Chess Variants, and others. There's no real reason that just because the sources are offline, an actual type of chess should be supplanted entirely by a software program of the same name. As not all versions of it are actually video games, I used (software) as the disambiguation instead, but am open to alternate ones. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as unneeded preemptive disambiguation. If there's ever a separate article on microchess-the-variant as distinct from Minichess (which is already linked in the hatnote), we can reassess. Until that article exists, the point is moot - disambiguation on Wikipedia is about distinguishing between Wikipedia articles, not every possible sense of the word. (See: Twice, etc.) Unless you want to argue that the primary meaning of Microchess is Minichess, Microchess should redirect to Minichess, and Minichess is what should have the hatnote? Based on the current Minichess article, that doesn't seem likely ("Microchess" is mentioned in one sentence, with a reference to one page of one book), but that would have to be the claim. SnowFire (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• :{{ping|SnowFire}} You stated that "until that article exists, the point is moot". However, lack of a separate article doesn't preclude disambiguation, see WP:DABMENTION. Microchess is indeed mentioned in the minichess article.
• :My argument is simply WP:NOPRIMARY. Right now, the Microchess program is positioned as the primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - Disambiguation is about distinguishing between Wikipedia articles, not about anointing one as the "primary". DABMENTION is part of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages, which is about dab pages, not article name disambiguation. Regardless, microchess is one specific type of minichess game, and "it's in books" is not sufficient evidence for me that it's the primary use of the word. Microchess is in books too, see the sources of this article, and while you attempted to preempt it, it's also the main (or at least similarly main) result for online searches. I'm open to being wrong here, but I don't see strong evidence. --PresN 21:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Justified primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 22:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)