Talk:Mike Jordan (racing driver)#Requested move 24 May 2015

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. {{RMnac}} Natg 19 (talk) 21:40, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

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:Mike Jordan (racing driver) → {{no redirect|Mike Jordan}} – The same again. Someone moving a primary topic without a move discussion. – Midas02 (talk) 13:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

• I actually think that this move request to reestablish the racing driver as the primary topic needs to become the controversial move discussion. All searches I get on search engines for the term "Mike Jordan" return the subject at "Michael Jordan" and some results for the actor Michael B. Jordan, so confusion is inevitable. The "technical move" requester has provided no rationale on why they themselves disagree with the primary topic displacement, but rather, seems a bit beaucratic in this revert request. Steel1943 (talk) 14:16, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

:This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 14:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose per my above statement contesting this as a technical move. Steel1943 (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose. Michael Jordan is the primary topic, even if he is primarily known by his full name. Calidum T|C 15:05, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
• Strong oppose the basketball's Michael Jordan is also not uncommonly called "Mike" -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
• Coming here from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Michael_Jordan&curid=272017&diff=663903389&oldid=663503243 this note]: As others have stated, the legendary basketball player Michael Jordan is the WP:Primary topic in this case. Flyer22 (talk) 04:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose, the real Mike Jordan could have literally jumped over Mike Jordan's racing car and stuffed a two-pointer on the way down. Randy Kryn 4:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
• Support Comment Can any of the opposers find WP:RS that call the basketballer "Mike Jordan"? I'm aware of Be Like Mike and Like Mike, but even in that film I don't think he was ever called "Mike Jordan". Timmyshin (talk) 17:18, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

:*{{Ping|Timmyshin}} Your comment doesn't seem like support for this move request, but rather an opinion that {{No redirect|Mike Jordan}} should target the disambiguation page Michael Jordan (disambiguation) instead of Michael Jordan. And also, it's worth noting that Mike Jordan (baseball, born 1863) also exists, possibly rendering the "Mike Jordan" title ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 17:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

::* You are correct, changed my vote. Timmyshin (talk) 18:09, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

• Comment: If this move request results in "not moved", I think a separate nomination might be needed for {{No redirect|Mike Jordan}} on WP:RFD to determine if it should target the disambiguation page Michael Jordan (disambiguation) or the primary topic Michael Jordan. Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
• Support a move back - we need a real RM from the starting point of primary topic. Red Slash 22:43, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

:*With all due respect, that also seems like unnecessary, time-consuming bureaucracy, especially given what almost seems like a WP:SNOW response to the currently-proposed move. I think the real question here is if {{No redirect|Mike Jordan}} should redirect to Michael Jordan or elsewhere, such as the disambiguation page Michael Jordan (disambiguation), which is a question that can be asked after this discussion is closed. Steel1943 (talk) 23:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

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