Talk:Missa brevis in B-flat

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Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

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The composition was published as Missa brevis in B. Compare - by the composer - Messe in G (Tambling). No Dur/Moll or major/minor, possibly to keep it more internationally. We can't help that the German B is the English B-flat, but I see no reason to have B-flat in the article title which ought to be the common name. This work was printed in Germany and is popular in Germany, and B-flat doesn't belong in its common name, when not a single source calls it that. I still believe that the disambiguation (Tambling) would make sense (vs. others in the same key, Missa brevis in B-flat major, K. 275, Missa brevis Sancti Joannis de Deo, Mass No. 3 (Schubert), and works by Fasch and Limmer with no article yet) but won't fight that. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

:Hi Gerda, sorry if I misunderstood you. You did not comment in the discussion but thanked me for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know&oldid=prev&diff=1162378544 my edit] where I suggested to move to the title with B flat, and so I understood that you agreed with me, so I followed through the next morning. At least two of the three English-language sources in the article use "Missa brevis in B flat", [https://www.thediapason.com/news/christopher-tambling-dead-51-0] [https://butz-verlag.de/engl/tambling.htm], so that seems to be the common name in English. In French, it has been translated as well: [https://www.musikhug.ch/fr/partitions/vocale/choeur-mixte/christopher-tambling-missa-brevis-in-b-b-dur-gemch-740433.html Missa brevis in B si bémolle majeur]. —Kusma (talk) 09:36, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

:: Thank you, - I missed that even the publisher translates it, sorry for not having looked that far. Ignore me then, but please fix lead and links. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

:::I've moved it back to "B-flat". I had already changed the lead and infobox to conform to this title, so I think it should work out now. —Kusma (talk) 09:00, 30 June 2023 (UTC)