Talk:Northern Cyprus

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The [[Euro]] also circulates in Northern Cyprus.

The Euro also circulates in Northern Cyprus.

In fact, the Cypriot euro coins are also inscribed in the Turkish language as well as in the Greek language. - (161.29.238.230 (talk) 23:06, 21 January 2025 (UTC))

The "non-binding"ness of UN Security Council Resolution 1983/541 must be added to the article

The article says:

"The north unilaterally declared its independence on 15 November 1983 under the name of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. This was rejected by the UN via Security Council Resolution 541.".

This part must be changed to:

"The north unilaterally declared its independence on 15 November 1983 under the name of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. "United Nations Security Council's non-binding Resolution 541 states the declaration of independence of Northern Cyprus as legally invalid".

Here is the reason:

=UNSC Resolution 1983/541 is '''Non-Binding'''=

On 04.08.1986, Greece filed a case against the Council of the European Communities(supporter intervener:Commission of the European Communities). In the case, Greece first argued that the UN Security Council Resolution 1983/541 called "upon all States not to recognize any Cypriot State other than the Republic of Cyprus". Greece then reasoned that since the Turkish Government recognized the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the European Community "cannot grant it the special aid without ignoring that breach and thereby itself violating an obligation imposed on it under a measure which is binding on it by virtue of the principle of substitution."{{cite web|url=https://digitalcommons.onu.edu/onu_law_review/vol43/iss1/1 |title=Developing the principle of non-recognition|work=Adam Saltzman|date=2019 |access-date=17 January 2025}}

On 25.05.1988, Council of the European Communities(supporter intervener:Commission of the European Communities) specified that the UN Security Council Resolution 1983/541 which is not passed under Article VII of the UN Charter is non-binding in nature, and Council of EC and the Commission of the EC stated that "It is manifest from the wording of the operative part and from the debates and the declarations of vote prior to the adoption of Resolution No 541 that the Resolution does not constitute a "decision" and is therefore not a binding measure, but a measure in the nature of a mere recommendation. Consequently, the States to which the declaration is addressed are NOT bound to comply with paragraph 7 of the resolution or to infer from the fact that paragraph 7 was not complied with the consequences which Greece claims they should infer."{{cite web|url=https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:61986CC0204 |title=Opinion of the Advocate-General (of CoEC and CEC)|work=Advocate General Mancini|date=1988 |access-date=17 January 2025}}

On 27.09.1988, European Court of Justice (ECJ) rejected all of the Greece's arguments in the Case 204/86 (Greek Republic v. Council of the European Communities(supporter intervener:Commission of the European Communities)), and punished Greece to pay all the costs, including the costs of the intervener. ECJ stated (in prg28) that the Resolution 1983/541 of the United Nations Security Council is completely extraneous to relations between

the Community and Turkey.{{cite web|url=https://eur-lex.europa.eu/resource.html?uri=cellar:eec1dbbe-ca2b-4e87-9f06-d9a2d2b31a10.0002.03/DOC_1&format=PDF |title=Judgment of 27.9.1988 - Case 204/86|work=European Court of Justice (ECJ)|date=1988 |access-date=23 January 2025}}78.175.237.89 (talk) 15:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:Aren't all UN resolutions non-binding? Alaexis¿question? 21:42, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:: Nope! The UN Security Council Resolutions which are passed under Article VI of the UN Charter are non-binding (therefore, not a "decision"). The UN Security Council Resolutions which are passed under Article VII of the UN Charter are binding.78.175.237.89 (talk) 23:16, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:::Yeah, you're right. Still, we need a better source that "Opinion of Mr Advocate General Mancini." Ideally a scholarly source like a book about the conflict. Alaexis¿question? 21:54, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

::::I second @Alaexis' comment. If it's verifiable, it can be added, but we should rely on WP:BESTSOURCES. Lewisguile (talk) 16:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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"Turkey"

Should we not be writing Turkiye? 2607:FEA8:D67:2B00:E5E9:4D30:291A:8C10 (talk) 14:11, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:We follow the main article Turkey. Alaexis¿question? 22:05, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Alleged

I wonder where did you get the allegation? {{ping|Scu ba}} Beshogur (talk) 23:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Because the 1974 coup failed, and we have no idea the actual concrete plans of the plotters should they have succeeded. Would they have perused enosis? probably, but that isn't verified. As are the Turkish claims that the Greek government was airlifting guns and ammunition. It was a claim that the Turkish government used to invade the island, not the verifiable truth. We should try to remain adverse to picking sides on Wikipedia and spreading propagandist rumors. Scuba 23:11, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::Propagandist? So you claim that pro enosis coup d'etat had no enosis plans? What's your source maybe? And how did a succesful coup fail? Beshogur (talk) 23:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Because Sampson resigned? Scuba 00:41, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Sorry but you have no clue about the topic. Make more research before stating something as a fact.

::::{{tq|On 15 July 1974, the Greek military dictatorship in Athens sponsored a coup on the eastern Mediterranean island of Cyprus, aiming to overthrow its selected president and unite the island with Greece.}} [https://wspartners.bbc.com/episode/w3ct5yh0 BBC] took me one minute. Beshogur (talk) 01:02, 25 June 2025 (UTC)