Talk:Novak Djokovic#Split proposal

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The "Political statements" section should be updated to include Novak Đoković (and his wife's) support for the 2024-present protests in Serbia. Đoković has been one of the most vocal athletes in supporting the protests. This support has gone so far that pro-government Serbian media has condemned him for it, with the paper "Informer" claiming he supports "violence and color revolution" (https://informer.rs/sport/novak-dokovic/999717/novak-dokovic-protesti-protesti-beograd). Since his support for the protests is a clear and repeated political position noticed by much of the public, to the extent that pro-Vučić sources have turned on him, it is important to add to this article. 162.84.172.56 (talk) 21:46, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

:Please give a suitable sentance to be included in the article. Warriorglance(talk to me) 05:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

:{{not done}}: Please provide Warriorglance a better sentence to be added... Valorrr (talk) 04:57, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

In the last 2 years Gael Monfils has beaten Alcaraz at his best, Medvdev, Sinner *(on steroids), buckets of wins against Peak Nadal and Peak Federer earlier in his career. Considered the most athletic player ever, inside the top 10 of all time.

This greatness is what makes the greatest record in the history of sport even greater.

No player in any sport at the highest level has ever won 20 straight times against one opponent and then add to this the fact that the opponent is a potential top 6 of ALL TIME. 89.109.68.28 (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

:Out of respect to the quality of player Gael is and more so the quality of person , I deliberately did not say Novak beat him every time they played 20 times. Beating, losing being negative things which Gael is anything but a loser, he is a winner 89.109.68.28 (talk) 19:07, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

::Novak would want notation of this record but in the most positive way possible,as he loves respects Gael to no end and also the respectful honest goodnature of Novak is unparalleled anywhere.

::As far as the greatest athlete of all time discussion goes, there are 10 or so on the list we all know but when you include the qualities of Honesty and Integrity the discussion ends. 89.109.68.28 (talk) 19:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

In an infobox where space is more at a premium and where it is a synopsis of prose, we would usually say the common name city and country of birth. With Martina Navratilova is is Prague, Czechoslovakia and with Djokovic it would be Belgrade, Yugoslavia. There are times when we would also use the state so it is possible to use Belgrade, Serbia, Yugoslavia but that was not common now or at the time. The main body can be ultra specific if it's important enough. I'm flexible with either but not with the ultra-bloated "Belgrade, SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia (now Serbia)" in the infobox. No English speaking country ever called it anything other than Yugoslavia. We say tennis great Gustavo Kuerten was born in Florianópolis, Brazil, not Florianópolis, Santa Catarina, Brazil. Same with current player Beatriz Haddad Maia... she's born in São Paulo, Brazil not São Paulo, São Paulo, Brazil. We don't use a special rule for Djokovic or Serbians. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

:Santa Catarina is not an official Republic or administrative center. Yugoslavia has no comparison to Brazil.

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:The guideline is very clear.

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:According to the infobox biographical style guidelines, birthplace is represented as: "city, administrative region, country". The country he was born in was the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (shortened to SFR Yugoslavia) which comprised of six republics (e.g. SR Serbia), each its own administrative region. (see Goran Ivanišević, Marin Čilić etc..). Johnnynumerofive (talk) 20:11, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

::Actually Santa Catarina IS a state like California. He was born in Yugoslavia and I said if we want to put Belgrade, Serbia, Yugoslavia, that can also be done. However that was rarely done at the time of Djokovics birth. Whether you look at [https://time.com/archive/6710476/yugoslavia-all-the-party-chiefs-men/ Time Magazine], [https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-10-20-mn-14619-story.html Los Angeles Times], or [https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/FRB/pages/1985-1989/32252_1985-1989.pdf 1987 banking reports]. The English speaking western world called it Belgrade, Yugoslavia. We don't rewrite history. Today of course it's a different story which is why we add in parenthesis (now Serbia), to make it clear. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:50, 11 April 2025 (UTC)