Talk:Nurse practitioner#Inappropriate sources

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Does anyone have an objection to me reformatting the page to have the sections of "Nurse practitioners in the United States" and "Nurse practitioners outside the United States"? Because there is a United States category the information for US NPs is needlessly repeated in the scope of practice and licensing categories. I believe placing all the information as it relates to each country together provides the best user experience and allows the removal of information that is duplicated up to three different times. Hue16459 (talk) 18:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

:I have begun this project. Hue16459 (talk) 00:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

::Wikipedia is a global encyclopedia. Splitting an article into the US vs everyone else is not appropriate here. MrOllie (talk) 00:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

:::I have changed the grouping. Hue16459 (talk) 00:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

:::What is the protocol for inclusion or removal of information if there is one source that says one thing but one source that says the direct opposite? Should both be listed side by side contesting each other or should the information be removed in general? Hue16459 (talk) 02:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

The opening paragraph currently ends with the sentence: "One study found that although reasons for referrals to specialists are similar for both physicians and NPs, the quality of documentation in the referrals may be lower for NPs." MOS:LEAD's nutshell states: "The lead should identify the topic and summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight." MOS:OPEN states: "The first paragraph should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific. It should establish the context in which the topic is being considered by supplying the set of circumstances or facts that surround it. If appropriate, it should give the location and time. It should also establish the boundaries of the topic; for example, the lead for the article List of environmental issues succinctly states that the list covers 'harmful aspects of human activity on the biophysical environment'".

Dedicating a sentence out of a four-sentence opening paragraph to summarizing a 2013 study where physicians rate their perceived referral quality of NPs does not seem to meet the guidelines for inclusion in the introductory paragraph. This study summary should be removed, or at minimum, moved elsewhere in the article. Wikipedialuva (talk) 11:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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The study suggesting that nurse practitioners over-prescribe has been completely debunked. The sample contained nurse practitioners that were employed in pain clinics which skewed the results. They study you quote even reports "outlyers" were the reason for the discrepancy. Higher quality and more recent studies show NPs prescribe opioids at similar or lower rates than physicians here:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8452368/

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2827714

I also read the commentary on the term "mid-level" provider. I would just add that this implies that nursing is not a profession separate from medicine and that physicians have a "high level" of nursing knowledge which is untrue. It also implies that nurses are "low level" providers which is offensive to say the least. 207.81.212.4 (talk) 00:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. meamemg (talk) 18:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)