Talk:Old Catholic Church

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Some legal nonsense from the "Old Catholic Confederation"

Attention is drawn to editors of this article of a [http://www.occus.org/legal legal attempt] by the "Old Catholic Confederation" of the so-called "Old Catholic Church in the United States" to restrict the use of "Old Catholic" as being their trademark. If they are not already, then editors should be aware that the Old Catholic Confederation is a recent creation which has no more historical or moral right to the term "Old Catholic" than any other body. In fact it has considerably less historical claim to the term "Old Catholic" than some other bodies in the United States. Whatever legal loophole this body has managed to crawl through regarding the use of "Old Catholic", editors should not be intimidated by such nonsense. It is all smoke and mirrors. Anglicanus (talk) 23:38, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Easy to discover that the OCC owns the trademark "Old Catholic": https://trademarks.justia.com/868/84/old-catholic-church-in-the-united-86884494.html 70.44.169.176 (talk) 22:03, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry. also found this: https://trademarks.justia.com/863/10/old-catholic-86310385.html 70.44.169.176 (talk) 22:06, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

:Easy to discover from the provided links that the registered trademarks are actually only for "Old Catholic Church in the United States" and "Old Catholic Confederation" ~ not for "Old Catholic" itself. Anglicanus (talk) 12:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Reverts by User:TheLionHasSeen

User:TheLionHasSeen, I hope you are doing well. In these [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Old_Catholic_Church&type=revision&diff=1015339395&oldid=1015022187 two edits], you removed a reference that supported the first sentence of the article, which read: "The Old Catholic Church is a communion of Churches that separated from the Roman Catholic Church over certain doctrines, primarily concerned with papal authority." The reference buttressing this statement said: "The Old Catholic Church numbers about 400,000 members worldwide and compromises those churches belonging to the Union of Utrecht. These churches accept the doctrines of the Church prior to 1054 (the year of the Great Schism which divided the Eastern and Western churches) and reject more modern doctrines such as the infallibility of the pope." Do you have any such reference that supports the uncited statement that you restored? If not, this violates Wikipedia's policies on WP:RS and WP:V. I look forward to hearing from your thoughts. With regards, Anupam^Talk 22:30, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

:: Hello. The reference only refers to the Union of Utrecht, not the Union of Scranton; these are two separate communions. The Union of Utrecht is only granted such recognition from the World Council of Churches per their membership requirements. Context is key, fellow Wikipedian. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 22:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

:::Dear User:TheLionHasSeen, the Old Catholic Church primarily refers to the former communion, though I will not bother to escalate this. Have a blessed Holy Week. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 22:39, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

TOCC section is written as if from a member of the church

"The same church founded by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" is not appropriate wording for a neutral article.Chriscrutch (talk) 06:37, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

"Old Roman Catholic" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Old Roman Catholic and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 2#Old Roman Catholic until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Veverve (talk) 00:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

:We in Europa know only Old Catholic Church after 1st Vatican Council.--Stebunik (talk) 23:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

"Old Catholic Confederation" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Old Catholic Confederation and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 4#Old Catholic Confederation until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Veverve (talk) 18:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

"[[:Christ-Catholics]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]

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The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christ-Catholics&redirect=no Christ-Catholics] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at {{slink|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 15#Christ-Catholics}} until a consensus is reached. Veverve (talk) 19:58, 15 October 2023 (UTC)