Talk:Palestine Children's Relief Fund#YouTube interview with PCRF founder as a citation

Does anyone have a login at Charity Navigator? I don't want to bother to register, but the words "For the past three years" need to be changed to the specific years. Besides, the [http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=6421 current page] only has them with three stars so I'd like to know when they got all four. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Footnotes 8 and 9, supposedly supporting the assertion that PCRF's reputation has been "harmed" by their association with another charity, don't link to anything. This assertion should be removed until someone can provide support for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.123.138.162 (talk) 17:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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Among my additions to this article was information about the PCRF building a second cancer department in February 2019 in the Gaza Strip, and operating a mental health program in Gaza. I supported these statements with [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brB9M4eKQXU this YouTube interview with Steve Sosebee], the founder of the PCRF, timestamps included. In the video, Sosebee talks about both of the aforementioned items. Though Sosebee cannot visually be seen in the video, it's reasonable to confidently conclude that it is indeed him, considering that it's Sosebee's voice speaking, and that Sosebee [https://twitter.com/VaushV/status/1394769519785037826 retweeted a post] by the video uploader that mentions the interview on Twitter, and [https://twitter.com/Stevesosebee/status/1395174475801534464 replying to another]. The use of this video as a citation was vetoed by Volteer1, who referred to it as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1024536265&oldid=1024535585&title=Palestine_Children%27s_Relief_Fund&type=revision "random youtube vids" that "are anything but RS"]. While I agree that, in the vast majority of cases, YouTube videos should not be treated as reliable sources, this is an interview with the PCRF's founder. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1024761936&oldid=1024536353&title=Palestine_Children%27s_Relief_Fund&type=revision I re-added the video as a citation], noting in the edit summary that it's not exactly "random youtube vids"—again, it's an interview with the PCRF's founder. Despite this, I decided to tag the statements about the PCRF's second cancer department and mental health program as needing additional citations, as I think it would be beneficial (and frankly preferable) to have a secondary source to support those statements. Today, Volteer1 reverted my re-addition of the video as a citation, claiming that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1024857945&oldid=1024780949&title=Palestine_Children%27s_Relief_Fund&type=revision "We have no way to verify who it is"], and calling the uploader of the video, known online as Vaush, a "random sex pest with a youtube account". I invite Volteer1 and other users to discuss whether the video in question should be used as a source on this article. —Matthew - (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

:I don't think we should need to do detective work to reason out and convince ourselves whether or not we should trust videos on social media from accounts we wouldn't otherwise have a reason to trust. Requiring a reliable source really isn't too much to ask here. Even ignoring the the WP:V issues, material that never finds its way to a reliable source is usually not a great candidate for inclusion into an article on Wikipedia. The material itself is probably true and isn't excessively objectionable so I don't have a problem leaving it up while a better source is found, but I don't think following core policy surrounding verifiability and reliable sourcing should really be that controversial. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 18:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

::{{Reply to|Volteer1}} I'll concede that you make a good point about the inclusion of "material that never finds its way to a reliable source". I hadn't really considered that angle. —Matthew - (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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Reference 12 was found to fall under self-serving claims on the Talk: Vaush. I think it should be removed here too, along with the info it holds up. Rewrite the section with the information provided by Kotaku (Ref 13), as that is a more accepected form of Ref for sourcing money on Wikipedia. Solitaire Wanderer (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

:File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I don't see the source in question here, {{u|Solitaire Wanderer}}. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 16:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC) (Fixed ping. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 16:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC))

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Hello! Changes to key people are necessary, as it seems PCRF has changed management since this was last updated.

1) Steve Sosebee is no longer the president of PCRF and should be removed from the section as such {{cite web |title=PCRF Announces Departure of Founding President After 30 Years |url=https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pcrf-announces-departure-of-founding-president-after-30-years-302026242.html |website=PR Newswire}}

2) Vivian Khalaf is chairwoman of the board and should be added in place of Khaled Abughazaleh. {{cite web |title=Vivian Khalaf |url=https://www.pcrf.net/team/vivian-khalaf.html |website=pcrf.net |publisher=PCRF |access-date=6 January 2025}}

3) Lubna Musa is the CEO and should be added to the key people section {{cite web |title=PCRF Team|url=https://www.pcrf.net/team |website=PCRF |access-date=6 January 2025}}

4) neither Khaled Abughazaleh nor Ashraf Abu-Issa are involved with the board any more and should be removed{{cite web |title=PCRF Board of Directors|url=https://www.pcrf.net/team/board-of-directors |website=PCRF |access-date=6 January 2025}} 82.205.42.158 (talk) 07:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}} Thanks for the suggestion. P1221 (talk) 14:11, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

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