Talk:Pederasty
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Dictionary definition
The dictionary definition of pederasty is of the act and not confined to ancient cultures, I think that should be made clear even if the editors For this article which to keep the subject matter strictly to when the exact term has been used. Dakinijones (talk) 03:25, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Only Ancient Greece and Rome?
I think it's not fair to only put these two examples I think from West Asia to Africa and the Americas because life expectancy was so low it was obvious at that time pederasty was happening and also to girls since they were married off as soon as their first menstrual cycle. So we just can't say it was a specific homosexual thing but rather common due to people dying at age 35 to 40 unlike now people can even age to 100. Nlivataye (talk) 07:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Summary of modern view in lead
I think we should continue to summarize the "Modern view" section in the lead. {{u|Word0151}} either disagrees or thinks the summary should be changed somehow. Word, could you tell use more about your objections? Is there a way to rephrase rather than remove? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Varieties of English Pronunciation - British/Commonwealth vs American
I've lived in Britain all my life, and I've never heard it pronounced with an "iː" before, so I did some research. Credible sources on British English (as used)
{{cite dictionary
| title = pederasty n. pronunciation
| dictionary = Oxford English Dictionary
| publisher = Oxford University Press
| date = July 2023
| url = https://www.oed.com/dictionary/pederasty_n?tab=pronunciation#32425229
| doi = 10.1093/OED/2984366090
| access-date = 2024-03-19}}
{{cite dictionary
| title = paederast
| dictionary = Cambridge Dictionary
| publisher = Cambridge University Press
| url = https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/paederast
| access-date = 2024-03-19}}
suggest there doesn't seem to be much difference between our pronunciation and the American one, apart from maybe a minor stress difference.
The only source I can find that uses "piːdə-" is [https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/pederasty an entry in Merriam-Webster's] (anecdotally, a poor source for Commonwealth English), and even that doesn't use the IPA.
(Note: I imagine this is where the error comes from, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pederasty&diff=prev&oldid=272501377 the initial edit in 2009] also uses the exact [https://merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/static/pdf/help/guide-to-pronunciation.pdf same non-IPA respelling system]).
The greek root παιδε is sometimes pronounced "piːdə" in the UK for words like "Paedophile" -- I can definitely see someone making a generalisation that, therefore, every word with that root must have a separate British pronunciation.
Funnily enough, other Wikiprojects (and Wiktionary) just list both as valid British pronunciations? {{cite Q|Q211354}} I don't know. I don't think there's enough evidence to warrant a separation, but there could be something I'm ignoring/that I've missed.
{{reflist-talk}} Titfortat-skag (talk) 21:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)