Talk:Period (Kesha album)#Requested move 4 April 2025

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus  — Amakuru (talk) 07:22, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Period (Kesha album) → {{no redirect|. (album)}} – Concision. All sources I've seen refer to the album title album as ".", not "Period". There's precedent for this anyhow, see - (album), ! (The Dismemberment Plan album), etc. estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:32, 4 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 10:27, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

:There’s an existing redirect page “. (Kesha album)” and “. (album)”. The title for the article is like that because it’s the way it’s pronounced and also the link for “. (album)” doesn’t look good on her discography page album listing. It needs to have a title! Coinhote (talk) 12:30, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

::But the official title is still just “.” not “Period”. SWB132 (talk) 10:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Linking an album named "=" on the discography page is ok, but a dot?? How old people are supposed to click on a dot symbol to read an article? - Atisnakebite (talk) 01:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

::::How is a dot any different from a dash? It's - versus . estar8806 (talk) ★ 17:32, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I think the majority of people would know that searching ". Kesha" would bring up every and all pages related to Kesha whereas typing "Period Kesha" would produce the exact page you're looking for. 47.145.232.123 (talk) 05:07, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per MOS:MUSICCAPS, which states {{xt|Exceptions are not made to mimic logo/cover stylization, even if such mimicry is common in the music press.}} and per MOS:TM. And just because other articles do something, doesn't mean every other article should, as well. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:47, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

:Note: WikiProject Women in Music and WikiProject Albums have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 10:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Agree with the above that . is small, unrecognizable, and causes accessibility issues. Both Exclaim and Stereogum use ". (PERIOD)", which is good enough justification for the current title. 162 etc. (talk) 16:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support, per nom. I don’t see this to be any different from any Ed Sheeran album that are titled by their symbols, and if there is an accessibility issue, the spelled out pronunciation can redirect here. How the title looks in a discography table shouldn’t matter, since the title is the title. WikiRedactor (talk) 17:21, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

:* That would classify as WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. livelikemusic (TALK!) 22:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

::* To me, the concept still applies. WikiRedactor (talk) 23:02, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Anyways it has "(album)" word next to ".", so it doesn't matter. Also "." is the official album name, not "Period". Camilasdandelions (talk!) 14:04, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{Ping|Another Believer|ArturSik|HorrorLover555|IndianBio|SNUGGUMS|Tbhotch}} Tagging some experienced editors within music-related articles to contribute to this move request discussion. Apologies to those who do not wish to be pinged. livelikemusic (TALK!) 15:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support. Was going to say that we should keep it as is since "." can be pronounced in many different ways ... but then I remembered that some Ed Sheeran album article titles use the symbols, such as + (album). If we were going to do it with one article, might as well keep it consistent. Also, since the proposed title removes the word "Kesha" from the disambiguator, one could also argue that using "." in the title instead of "Period" is more WP:NATURAL. Steel1943 (talk) 16:21, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Like the other two users who opposed are mentioning, it could cause accessibility issues for the reader. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support the Ed Sheeran comparisons show this is a plausible idea, as long as we keep a parenthetical to maintain clarity. I would also have no objections to ". (Kesha album)" in case people find it confusing without her name listed. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:55, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Strong comment: The existence of Full Stop (album) may need to be considered here since a "." could be interpreted as a "full stop". Steel1943 (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Neutral, pinged for some reason. :Category:Ed Sheeran albums indicates that symbols are valid. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 19:04, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
• Support per WP:UCRN. That is how it is listed on streaming services (without any parenthetical text), and presumably also its title when on charts. Although we know it is pronounced "period", . can also be pronounced "decimal", "dot", "full stop", etc., making the symbol more natural and recognizable (per WP:CRITERIA), as well as consistency with albums at ?, +, !, and even _. 78.82.201.71 (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Per MOS:MUSICCAPS, it states {{xt|Exceptions are not made to mimic logo/cover stylization, even if such mimicry is common in the music press.}} And this would include streaming services. livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:48, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• :*Support, I would suggest instead of using a "." to use "•" as it's a tad bit larger and would be slightly more visible for readers. Pillowdelight (talk) 01:34, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

:* Huge oppose on that one; that isn't even a period point. That's a bullet point, which is not even what the album would be titled. livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:48, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, it would be unclickable, and a number of sources are calling it "Period": [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kesha-announces-new-album-period-yippee-ki-yay-t-pain-1235304579/ Rolling Stone], [https://www.papermag.com/kesha-period-cover PAPER], [https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/kesha-releases-single-t-pain-new-album-period-1236174100/ The Hollywood Reporter], and [https://collider.com/kesha-new-album-period-t-pain-collab/ Collider]. Other sources, like Billboard, are calling it . (PERIOD). ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• :To be clear, I think this is the sort of thing that MOS:TMCAPS is talking about. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:21, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Is Period official name of the album, or is . official? Camilasdandelions (talk!) 08:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - absurd. As with above, accessibility is probably the most relevant reason to leave the title as it is. . is not a title. It's punctuation. Wikipedia does not need to give way to every little creative titling whim that our topics decide to implement - even if they are clever. We have a duty to our readers to make the site accessible, and while I think the humor value in having . (album) is certainly there, the fact that other sources use "Period" as noted above (and some fairly solid ones, at that) is a further indicator that there is a good reason for us to keep it as-is. We don't follow "official" names, in any case, we follow the common name, and even then, we are empowered to make exceptions as needed, and I think that in this case, it is needed. (For the record, I disagree with the Sheeran album titles being used verbatim as well, so perhaps I'm just an outlier) ASUKITE 11:16, 20 April 2025 (UTC)