Talk:Persecution of Muslims in Myanmar

The article has a big self-pity value and does not quote sufficient sources. The article deliberately obfuscates the line between Burmese nationalism and religious tensions. A major failure in terms of neutrality and is more like a reposting of Moshe Yegar's book.

Please clean up to do actual justice to the people of Myanmar, regardless of race and religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.203.1 (talk) 05:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Chris 03:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I am not sure how to make edits properly.

But the section on 2012 says that 2000+ have been massacred and has a reference. I read the reference and it says that the number of those killed (on all sides) is still less than 100 people...

So, the article says something wholly unsupported the actual reference used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.28.151 (talk) 18:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

This article seems to be formulated in such a way so that a neutral point of view cannot be readily achieved. The title ("Persecution of Muslims in Burma") reads like an invitation to talk about how bad one side of the issue is. See POV fork. Perhaps a merge to Islam in Burma is advised. NTox · talk 19:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

:There doesn't seem to be much support for such a move, and I think I'm opposed myself. Since this discussion doesn't seem to be moving forward, is it all right with you if I remove the very stale proposed move tag? If you'd like to reopen the discussion, though, feel free to revert me--we can bring in some more heads on this one. -- Khazar2 (talk) 03:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== No need of separate article ==

I think there is no need of separate article for islam in Myanmar. as it is already have all the details require.

this article should be deleted. as it shows only one side of conflict and not another. very bias marshmir (talk) 15:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

For your information, this article was blocked in India as a part of censorship in India. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

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{{Discussion top|For the 2024 proposal, to not merge Rohingya genocide and Persecution of Muslims in Myanmar; for the 2018 proposal, no support for merging Rohingya persecution in Myanmar. Klbrain (talk) 13:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)}}

• The degree of logical overlap between these two articles is very large. Roughly half of this article (including half its lede) is about Rohingya persecution in Myanmar. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 07:44, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
• :Oppose per Vinegarymass. Jebiguess (talk) 22:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose the proposed merger of these two articles for several reasons. First, merging them would violate Wikipedia guidelines such as WP:NOTABILITY and WP:UNDUE, as both topics are significant in their own right and deserve independent treatment. This merger also contradicts WP:SPLIT and WP:CFORK, as both articles cover distinct aspects of the Rohingya crisis that warrant separate discussions. Combining them would result in an unwieldy article that lacks focus and clarity, making it difficult for readers to find specific information. A merger would hinder navigation and reduce the overall quality of information available to users. Each topic deserves to be covered comprehensively without being diluted or oversimplified. Therefore, I believe these articles should remain separate to provide a clearer, more detailed understanding of the Rohingya crisis. Bruno pnm ars (talk) 12:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. That article is quite lengthy already. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, the majority of Rohingya are Muslim, but not all Muslims in Myanmar are Rohingya.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 14:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, beyond the scope difference that Vinegarymass911 points out, there is also a scope difference in the temporality, where the Rohingya genocide article deals with a series of escalation from the 2010s to the 2020s, whereas this article (Persecution of Muslims in Myanmar) covers all historical occurences for which we have evidence (from the 1500s to the 2000s). --Cdjp1 (talk) 21:37:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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Crimes against humanity is a specific legal concept. In order to be included in the category, the event (s) must have been prosecuted as a crime against humanity, or at a bare minimum be described as such by most reliable sources. Most of the articles that were formerly in this category did not mention crimes against humanity at all, and the inclusion of the category was purely original research. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

We have two article on persecution (in addition to the one one genocide). I suggest consolidating Persecution of Muslims in Myanmar and the long-standing stub at Rohingya persecution in Myanmar so that we consolidate this material on one place. There will be very little change in length, as the incoming article is short; note that this proposal wouldn't affect Rohingya genocide. Klbrain (talk) 13:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{merge done}} Klbrain (talk) 17:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)