Talk:Peter Thiel#rfc 6B8AC88

There have been many recent articles showing Thiel's pronounced involvement with Curtis Yarvin and the Dark Enlightenment movement, with signs that this movement is currently being implemented and led by Elon Musk acting as the CEO prescribed by Curtis Yarvin. There is no mention of his involvement on Thiel's wikipedia page despite evidence and reporting that he is a key figure. https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-doge/

"Largely ignored by academic philosophers, the “Dark Enlightenment” movement and Yarvin have curried favor and influence with tech executives in recent years. A software engineer by training, Yarvin has become a kind of official philosopher for tech leaders like PayPal cofounder Peter Thiel and Mosaic founder Marc Andreessen. Not unlike the Futurists, Yarvin advocates for replacing democracy with a kind of techno-feudal state—for the government to be run like a corporation, with the president as its “CEO.”"

And:

"There are shades of Yarvin’s philosophy in Thiel’s 2009 essay for the Cato Institute, where he wrote “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” And Thiel, through his venture capital firm, Founders Fund, was an early investor in the blogger’s [Curtis Yarvin's] startup company [https://softwareengineeringdaily.com/2017/01/20/urbit-with-curtis-yarvin-and-galen-wolfe-pauly/ Urbit]."

https://time.com/7269166/dark-enlightenment-history-essay/

"In 2012, [Nick] Land’s (co-founder with Yarvin of the NRx movement) online manifesto condemns democracy and cites libertarians like Peter Thiel, quoting his belief that freedom and democracy are not “compatible.”"

https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/dark-enlightenment/

"Peter Thiel, a co-founder of PayPal, is another pillar of the movement. He’s been a fervent financier of Yarvin and other neo-reactionaries since the movement’s beginnings."

https://english.elpais.com/usa/2024-11-30/nrx-the-underground-movement-that-wants-to-destroy-democracy.html

There are enough articles that it appears to be worth adding a section and is in the interest of the general public. Civicdiscourse (talk) 16:50, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

This Wikipedia page is confusing regarding his early years. It says his parents immigrated to the US when he was 1 year old. They immigrated to Ohio and later moved to California. The next paragraph says he grew up in a German community in Africa. and attended school there. 71.71.65.252 (talk) 10:44, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

{{ping|Deamonpen}} the claims in the Reuters article are explicitly attributed to two unnamed sources. I linked WP:WEASEL in response to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Thiel&diff=prev&oldid=1294214191 your edit] stating that "Reuters suggests" one of those claims. WeyerStudentOfAgrippa (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Because so many books and articles about Peter Thiel list named sources, when it's about his personal life or political motivations?

:Chafkin, the author of the most known biography about him, has interviewed 150 people - almost all of these refuse to be named because they fear Thiel's retribution. He is notoriously secretive. And I'm sure I am not the only who interpreted the passage as "Reuters suggests Thiel was worried about his family's safety".

:This, for example:

:"The Reuters article did not mention this event in relation to Thiel’s decision about donations, although it did say he was worried about his family’s safety."

:https://www.yahoo.com/news/peter-thiel-gay-republican-billionaire-152532681.html

:Publicly he said Trump's first administration failed at the most basic things and was much worse than his already low expectation. In 2024, in a corporate conference, he told Reid Hoffman that Trump was a clown.Yet obviously he chose to support the second campaign, except giving money to Trump. There must have been something else.-Deamonpen (talk) 22:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

{{edit extended-protected|Peter Thiel|answered=yes}}

Replace

> US's " highest conservative circles"

with

> US's "highest conservative circles"

removing stray whitespace. KTibow (talk) 17:02, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}} Cannolis (talk) 17:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)