Talk:Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York#Requested move 31 May 2024

I think this is notable, relevant, and reliably sourced, and should be included.

What do others here think?

The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 19:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/doj-official-calls-trump-prosecutions-perversion-of-justice-in-undercover-clip-donald-trump-nicholas-biase-department-of-justice-alvin-bragg-new-york-hush-money-trial-mug-club-undercover

: It’s one person’s opinion, which that person has retracted, as stated in the article, so no, I don’t think it merits inclusion. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 10:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

::This has been reported in multiple reliable sources, and he only retracted his opinion once he discovered he had been recorded. Moreover, this is not just "one person"; he is "a senior official at the Department of Justice's Southern District of New York office". Definitely needs inclusion. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Here's another source:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/politics/manhattan-us-attorney-office-spokesperson-video-trump-hush-money/index.html

The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 21:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Our previous discussions on the title have run into a deadlock. As a key element of a title, "hush money" is more recognizable, but is technically incorrect since the charges are for business records falsification, and paying hush money is not even in itself a crime. On the other hand, "business records falsification" is potentially ambiguous with the civil trial and with the separate criminal prosecution of Trump Organization corporations.

I think that combining the two may solve these problems, so I want to ask what people would think of Hush money records falsification trial of Donald Trump or something similar. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 23:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

All parties have agreed to the sentencing hearing being delayed (until November 26) given the unprecedented situation of Trump now being president-elect. Manifold implications, the sheer logistics (!) of whatever comes down if it's not outright dismissal, etc. We do have a baseline, however: Trump isn't the only New York Class E Felon that's ever been. Strictly in terms of the number and types of charges, what sentences have been handed down in, oh, the last decade or since the turn of the century? Understandably, everything I've found has been focused on the uniqueness of this case, but again, there's public record. What say you? kencf0618 (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

:Well, we could do all that research and get a number, but we could not put it in the article because it would be WP:OR. What you would need to do is find some pundit who mentions what the median sentence would be and then figure out where in the article to put it making sure to make it clear who said it so it is not in Wikipedia's voice. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

The only reason this was technically possible. Was due to the fact that governor Cuomo

had issued numerous extensions, due to COVID-19. To extend the statue of limitations. Because of this, it was under these circumstances. That made it possible for any of these charges, to even have been able to be filed.

This would have never been an issue. Due to normal statute of limitations of the law, to file charges under normal circumstances! D.E.Moats (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

:If you are proposing an addition to this article, please offer reliable sources which support your claims. 331dot (talk) 13:31, 16 March 2025 (UTC)