Talk:Religion and birth control

[http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,1954759,00.html?gusrc=rs

s&feed=1 Here] is a Guardian story outlining how in cases where AIDS or HIV is likely to be spread within a male-female marriage, the Pope is looking likely to condone it. As it is something in progress, however, it does not necessarily need to be included in the article as of yet; you should just be aware of its existence. Seegoon 13:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks! I have added the info to the main article at Christian_views_on_contraception#Shifting_position.3F. CyberAnth 19:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry, but in recent times, Pope Benedict explicitly denounced the use of condoms for AIDS-related purposes. ADM (talk) 07:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Catholic Church Contraception line. "This belief dates back to the first centuries of Christianity". Does it? I think not and the link to this wild assertion is missing

--195.171.4.220 (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I reverted the following edit to the end of the Roman Catholicism section: "It is said, however, that the Church is not a democracy and She will not change her beliefs simply because the populace does not accept them." This might be true, but it is 1. original research, 2. not cited, and 3. POV. I actually happen to agree with the sentiment expressed, but it is unencyclopedic, and really not necessary. Time will tell. I believe it is true that the church will not change its (her?) stance on condom use, but making that prediction based on your own observations not only does not contribute constructively to the article, but it will be known in time, anyway, when no such change occurs. Peace in Christ! MamaGeek ^{(talk/contrib)} 12:53, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It would appear that the section on the Protestant view focuses only on American Evangelical or American Fundamentalist opinion. Also the terms used are being presented as authoritative and by extension (due to their presence here) somewhat academic, when they are neither Rotovia (talk) 12:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Although it does seem improbable today that married people would be among the most likely to use contraception, when Humanae Vitae was written, the question of contraception among married men and women was especially acute. Since the 1968 encyclical is still the official position of the Church, it would still be relevant to indicate that the Church opposes contraception even within marriage. ADM (talk) 07:50, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

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In Iran, a Shia Islamic country, contraceptive methods are not only taught to married couples, but also encouraged to youngsters through posters and advertisements

There are no citations for it, since 2007 (asking for citation @ 2007). In Iran contraceptive methods are taught to married couples, but there are no posters or advertisements for youngsters, and -as I've seen in the newspapers- Pictorial advertisement is even prohibited.

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Sunni and Shia jurists, employing the legal principle of reasoning by analogy (qiyas), ...

This sentence is wrong, as analogy is NOT accepted in Shia islam, as seen in analogy.

--188.75.81.21 (talk) 08:26, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

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1) We have too many primary material (and it doesn't mention birth control) and not enough secondary.

2) We only include quotes from the introduction (and they don't mention birth control), so they could be applicable to all or some teachings later in the document.

3) We leave out quotes that do mention birth control (probably because they are vague and can be read either way):

paragraph 41: "The development of bio-technology has also had a major impact on the birth rate”.18 Added to this are other factors such as “industrialization, the sexual revolution, the fear of overpopulation and economic problems… Consumerism may also deter people from having children, simply so they can maintain a certain freedom and life-style”.19 The upright consciences of spouses who have been generous in transmitting life may lead them, for sufficiently serious reasons, to limit the number of their children, yet precisely “for the sake of this dignity of conscience, the Church strongly rejects the forced State intervention in favour of contraception, sterilization and even abortion”.20 Such measures are unacceptable even in places with high birth rates, yet also in countries with disturbingly low birth rates we see politicians encouraging them. As the bishops of Korea have said, this is “to act in a way that is self-contradictory and to neglect one’s duty”.21

Why is this vague: it doesn't exclude natural family planning so "he upright consciences of spouses who have been generous in transmitting life may lead them, for sufficiently serious reasons, to limit the number of their children" can be read either way.

It seems to be talking about forced contraception but also about encouraging contraception and the reference to the bishops of Korea is strange.

paragraph 82: "The Church’s teaching is meant to “help couples to experience in a complete, harmonious and conscious way their communion as husband and wife, together with their responsibility for procreating life. We need to return to the message of the Encyclical Humanae Vitae of Blessed Pope Paul VI, which highlights the need to respect the dignity of the person in morally assessing methods of regulating birth…" The tripple points are in the text, and what he is saying here is unclear. 2A02:1810:BC3A:D800:CD79:D26A:27B9:A5B7 (talk) 11:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)