Talk:Russian phonology#Discussion

In this article palatal consonant phonemes are written as xʲ (nʲ, kʲ, etc.). I understand that this is what the sources do but on the other hand the same phonemes are written differently for other languages (e.g., ɲ instead of nʲ for Voiced palatal nasal). Do you think it would make sense to wikilink the corresponding articles (for example, nʲ)? What sources can be used for that? Alaexis_¿question? 08:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

:Russian palatalized consonants are similar to but not the same as palatal consonants used in other languages. The Voiced palatal nasal has only palatal articulation, but [nʲ] has dental and palatal articulations. Burzuchius (talk) 08:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

::@Burzuchius, thanks for the answer. I missed it somehow. Are you sure about this? The table in the Voiced palatal nasal article says that it's also dental in some other languages including Spanish and Portuguese. Alaexis_¿question? 21:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:::Russian /nʲ, dʲ, tʲ/ have secondary articulation. Basically the tip of the tongue says /n/ while the back of the tongue says /j/. That's different from /ɲ, ɟ, c/, which are articulated exclusively at the palate. With [kʲ, ɡʲ, xʲ] it's less clear whether they are coarticulated or just fronted; but these aren't really phonemic anyway. 2.207.102.157 (talk) 14:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)