Talk:Sexual intercourse#Discussion of Wwallacee's second changes to article

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"lose virginity to"

I'd like to see more objective descriptions related to the first time a male or female person partakes in intercourse for the first time. The sentence that is particularly bothering me is " The CDC also reports that American girls will most likely lose their virginity to a boy who is 1 to 3 years older than they are"

Firstly, it is a misreading of the data presented in the cited CDC report. While it does survey the ages of first sex partners, it does not determine the likelihood of age for first intercourse. Instead, it looks at the correlation between the age of first partner and the use of contraceptives. Based on that alone, the sentence should be removed altogether.

Secondly, this language is juvenile and does not reflect the seriousness or content of the CDC source cited. The writer uses "boys" and "girls" when the CDC report is specifically about teenagers and uses the more neutral and age appropriate term "female teenagers/male teenagers." The framing also assumes that female teens are "losing" something by taking part in sexual intercourse, which is rooted in patriarchal ideas of purity and the assumption that female people lack the agency to determine their own sexual activity and pleasure gained from that activity. Perhaps women/teens do gain something when they first have intercourse?

I'm new to wikipedia editing and can't make changes to this article because it is restricted. But this one sentence irked me enough to open an account and advocate for its removal. The CDC report has a lot of valuable data related to contraceptive use and the disparity between how female teenagers and male teenagers felt about their first intercourse, but it does not say anything about who is likely to first have intercourse with who.

Thank you for considering. CHG 1999 (talk) 04:47, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

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