Talk:Singaporean Mandarin

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Some Biasedness detected NPOV/POV

"the Colloquial Singaporean Mandarin is the form used by the general population, usually among the less educated who finds difficulty in speaking the language and tend to infuse the language with many words from other Chinese dialects, Malay and English."

This is a biased statement to discriminate the less educated. There are highly English-educated Singaporean Chinese who finds it difficult to speak Standard Proper Mandarin language. The 'less educated who finds difficulty in speaking the language' is not totally true. Colloquial Singaporean Mandarin is not necessarily a result of 'less education', but rather due to less exposure to Standard Mandarin such as those spoken in mainland China and Taiwan. While it is true that the older generations of Singaporean Chinese are less educated and tend to be dialect-speaking, it still comes back to the same story that many Singaporean Chinese are of Southern Chinese descent and tend to speak their native Chinese dialects as their true mother tongue.

Corrections made: usually among those with poorer command of Mandarin and who are less exposed to Standard Mandarin. They tend to infuse the language with many words from other Chinese dialects, Malay and English.

(Yhjow (talk) 11:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC))

"Usually among those with poorer command of Mandarin and who are less exposed to Standard Mandarin". This statement was deleted due to reasons mentioned above (biasedness) where some might feel insulted.

(Yhjow (talk) 07:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC))

Use of certain nouns as adjectives

What does the section "Use of certain nouns as adjectives" contribute to the discussion of Singaporean Mandarin? It only summarizes the use of 有 as a way of turning nouns into adjectives in Standard Mandarin. Shouldn't this be expanded or deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.34.77.5 (talk) 08:39, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

The "use of certain nouns as adjectives" is now changed to "the use of the word 有"

(Yhjow (talk) 07:59, 6 September 2013 (UTC))

The use of certain words

I'm a native speaker and I find words like 钟头, 礼拜, 而已 pretty common and popular among mainland Chinese people although they are a bit colloquial. Then there are other expressions (e.g. speaking of time, word order) I have never heard before. So each expression has a different degree of familiarity.--77.0.241.217 (talk) 02:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Wa Lao origin

'Wa Lao' is actually a corrupted Hokkien vulgar word. The original word is 我卵 which means 'my penis'.

The corruption is as follows

Gua Lan -> Wa Lan -> Wa Lao

(some people in Singapore speak Gua as Wa), Lao is a corruption of Lan.

175.140.91.120 (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Origin of Lu Mien

滷麵 Lu Mien comes from Hokkien style cooking which makes thick gravy for the noodles.

Lu means 'thick gravy' and it's also used in Taiwan and PRC. It's not unique to Singapore.

175.140.91.120 (talk) 16:21, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Now that Colloquial Singaporean Mandarin/Singdarin has been deleted (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singdarin), there is less point than ever to keeping a separate article for Standard Singaporean Mandarin, whose content is highly duplicative and mostly misguided: it's mostly about colloquial speech, not the formal register. Jpatokal (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:Agree with a merge, official standards make sense as a part of the wider article, but I am unsure there is enough to make them standalone, especially as any changes would impact colloquial Mandarin use too. CMD (talk) 07:48, 4 April 2025 (UTC)