Talk:Songs of thanksgiving (pesukei dezimra)#Requested move 10 January 2024

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. To effect the merge mentioned below (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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:Songs of thanksgiving (pesukei dezimra) → {{no redirect|Songs of thanksgiving}} – Songs of thanksgiving redirects here, so "(pesukei dezimra)" seems unnecessary, and I'm also not sure that phrase is in English? Also also, would "Songs of Thanksgiving" be more correct? -- Beland (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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::* Merge. Psukei Dezimra (normally translated literally as Verses of Praise, not the more figurative Songs of Thanksgiving) is a bit of a mess on Wikipedia. There are three related articles:

::# Pesukei Dezimra: The "main" article. It could be improved but covers the set of prayers relatively well. Pesukei Dezimra is also the commonname, since most other prayers on en-wiki use the transliterated Hebrew name as their article name.

::# Songs of thanksgiving (pesukei dezimra): This article being discussed. It has little extra information not included in (1), and that should be summarised in (1).

::# Hallel (pesukei dezimra): An article which relates the one fact that a subset of the Pesukei Dezimra is known as the weekday Hallel (Praise giving). Which fact should just be included in (1) not have its own article.

::I recommend that (2) and (3) be merged into (1). The English and weekday Hallel names can just be treated as usual in the first line of the lead.

::I'm happy to do the merge, as I have on my to do list to expand the main article anyway. Ayenaee (talk) 12:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

:Merge into Pesukei Dezimra, per @Ayenaee Longhornsg (talk) 20:02, 11 January 2024 (UTC)