Talk:Spacefaring

what about Brazil's launch of a Brazilian astronaut in 2004?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.161.184.165 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Also the Italian San Marco!! [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marco_(satelliti_artificiali)]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.190.162.150 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Italy was not the 4th country to launch a satellite, but the third, since the launch of the first San Marco A satellite happened in December 1964, as outlined in [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marco_(satelliti_artificiali) this article] from the Italian Wikipedia and [http://space.skyrocket.de/index_frame.htm?http://www.skyrocket.de/space/doc_sdat/san-marco-1.htm here].

Although for the whole San Marco Program the launchers were always provided by the NASA, I'm unsure whether it is correct to state that the country "has never developed any launch capability of its own".

In fact, Italy built [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marco_platform a launch platform] and a [http://www.astronautix.com/sites/sanmarco.htm control platform] in Kenya. The latter is still active, while the launch platform is not used since the late 80s.

I tried myself to modify the list in the main article but gave up after re-iterated cancellation of Italy from the list. Hopefully this comment will stay a bit longer... :)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.159.141.53 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

A better title for this article would be List of spacefaring nations, since that's what the article is about, as well as to differentiate the content from spaceflight in general. "Spacefaring" is an adjective, and therefore is not an ideal article title. Mlm42 (talk) 01:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:Looking at this one year later, it would appear this proposal never got any support. I'm noting that here, as the fact that the article is not focused merely on nation states is relevant to the proposal I will make in the next section. N2e (talk) 04:25, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

The article, based on it's current title (Spacefaring), is not merely about Spacefaring nations. Nevertheless, the article seems to have a strong nation-centric POV. With a number of private enterprises working on spaceflight launch vehicles, and several of them currently developing orbital vehicles (Stratolaunch Systems, arguably others) and other companies having announced plans to do so, it seems like the nation-centric POV should now be reduced, even if it might have been appropriate previously in describing the first 50 years of spaceflight.

Specifically, at least one private company, Space Exploration Technologies (aka SpaceX), has already developed two orbital launch vehicles (Falcon 1 and Falcon 9) and has completed four successful orbital launches to date. Arguably, the Russian 1992 Europe-America 500 was a private spaceflight.

So my proposal is to update the prose to reflect a more neutral point-of-view, one that works for both nation states and national space entities, as well as private space transportation providers. Any thoughts from other editors? N2e (talk) 04:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Someone close to this article should update it. SpaceX launch was successful. RIP public funded space exploration, hello Mars colony. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 10:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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There is a suggestion to merge Spacefaring to Spaceflight. See talk:Spaceflight

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