Talk:Spaghettification#Pancaking

StephenPaulKIng (talk) 22:37, 4 April 2018 (UTC) Have any calculations or arguments been made on the possibility of a blue shift on the hawking radiation close to event horizons due to transverse tidal effects?

This possibility is discussed in this essay. All comments are welcome: http://davidwoolsey.com/AttO/AttO_blog/Entries/2016/12/25_Black_Holes_and_Transverse_Tidal_Effects%2C_a_short_essay_on_some_thoughts.html

Wouldn’t the spacetime containing the matter itself “spaghettify”? Therefore how would an astronaut notice anything different? The space they are in is stretching, not just them.

86.93.208.34 (talk) 23:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

:This question belongs on the Reference Desk, not article talk page. Thank you. 68.174.155.22 (talk) 17:20, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

After several attempts by user {{user|178.66.158.209}} to add content relating to pancaking, an alleged opposite to the article subject, and after a number of warnings at User talk:178.66.156.135 and User talk:178.66.158.209, I did some reverts [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spaghettification&diff=1245408920&oldid=1245407230], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spaghettification&diff=next&oldid=1245414295], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spaghettification&diff=1245414295&oldid=1245414072]. Finally I restored [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spaghettification&diff=next&oldid=1245414072 last known good]. Comment welcome. - DVdm (talk) 21:59, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

:Per Bold, revert, discuss its up the the editor adding the content to make their case now. Johnjbarton (talk) 22:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

:Looks like a bad attempt to explain Lorentz contraction that mixes up a pop-science explanation of a wild conjecture with the actual phenomenon. Good removal. XOR'easter (talk) 02:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Who got rid of the spaghettification by neutron stars? 174.103.211.175 (talk) 02:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

:I did in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spaghettification&diff=prev&oldid=1245421012 this edit].

:My edit summary: Delete off topic unsourced section.

:Off topic because the section was about tidal forces, not spaghettification directly. Unsourced means I could not fix by reading the refs, there were none. Johnjbarton (talk) 02:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

::What are refs? 174.103.211.175 (talk) 02:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

:::Please see WP:sources. Unfortunately it's not clear to me if "spaghettification" is a real word. I've only found very marginal sources that use it. Hawking never uses the term, only "stretched out like spaghetti". Consequently I guess you will not be able to find references for hypothetical spaghettification by neutron stars. Johnjbarton (talk) 03:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

::::https://www.sciencealert.com/if-an-astronaut-got-too-close-to-a-neutron-star-the-explosion-would-dwarf-our-entire-nuclear-arsenal

::::Here it mentions the phenomenon. It certainly doesn't sound pleasant. 174.103.211.175 (talk) 17:04, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! The Science Alert article is describing a video and these are generally put in External references. I added an entry. Johnjbarton (talk) 17:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

::::::You're welcome and Thank you! 174.103.211.175 (talk) 21:40, 5 October 2024 (UTC)