Talk:St Cuthbert's Church, Edinburgh#Split proposed

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I don't think it is normal to put days and times of ringing practices in an encyclopedic article. I shall remove this information. However, the times of services I'm not inclined to remove, even though they are given on the website. What might the consensus be?--Brenont (talk) 05:05, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I thought it better to retain the ringing practice info by placing it in a comment--Brenont (talk) 05:09, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

"Jessie MacDonald, granddaughter of Flora MacDonald who helped Bonnie Prince Charlie escape" was removed since there was no evidence of notability.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 12:06, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

The "Churchyard" section should really be its own article titled "St Cuthbert’s Churchyard": it's a historic and significant site and the present section imbalances the article on the church. The current section needs a few improvements before it becomes an article. In particular, while a prose "Notable burials" section is necessary, most of the information in the current "Noteworthy burials" section would, for the following reasons, be more appropriately contained within a category than the main article:

• Few of the names listed are supported by citations and few can be. In most cases, the fact of an individual's burial in St Cuthbert's cannot be found in secondary literature on either St Cuthbert's or the individual. In many of the linked biographical articles, no proof of an individual's burial in St Cuthbert's is offered beyond the grave-marker itself.

• Wikipedia's best articles on cemeteries do not contain such lists. The only featured article about a cemetery, Oakwood Cemetery (Troy, New York), uses a well-cited prose section to summarise notable internments.

• This list does not align with Wikipedia's purpose as a tertiary source. Wikipedia's purpose as an online encyclopaedia work is to collate and summarise secondary sources on a topic. No secondary source on St Cuthbert's or its churchyard contains a list like this.

I have opened this up for discussion because I don't want to move information from an article if others feel it to be useful. At the same time, I don't want to remove this entirely: notable burials, by a stricter and verifiable definition, should be included in the article and a category 'Burials in St Cuthbert's Churchyard' would be an entirely appropriate alternative place for this information.

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