Talk:Stereochemistry
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i think that the place of numbers 2, 3 should be replaced by 1, 4 in the right figure, as they r related to the vertical lines, they should be directed to the backword direction.
Really questionable shape, at present
This has to be one of the most important chemistry articles in the encyclopedia. Please, lets elevate it in priority and get some subject matter experts to attend to this. One cannot possibly link to it in this shape. Leprof 7272 (talk) 03:41, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
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:{{ping| Nicl0728}}. You are an undergrad doing homework on a topic where you are inexpert, so please stick with textbook references. Stereochemistry is a very mature area, and you are very inexperienced. See WP:TERTIARY for the guideline. Standard grad level organic textbooks should be sufficient. --Smokefoot (talk) 13:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks for your suggestion! --Nicl0728 (talk) 07:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Org scheme options
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Any opinions on these two schemes?:
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File:Stereoisomer are of two types, enantiomers vs diastereomers.svg.
My preference is for the simpler one but maybe I am missing something. Also, the article is not about "isomers" per se, but stereoisomers.--Smokefoot (talk) 14:27, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
:Well, upon reflection, those schemes belong in isomers, not stereochemistry.--Smokefoot (talk) 14:44, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
March's section on stereochemistry
With regards to stereochemistry, it is useful to review the organization of that theme in the very mature textbook on organic chemistry, which spans about 100 pages (page numbers indicated to indicate emphasis given each topic):
OPTICAL ACTIVITY AND CHIRALITY page 136
Dependence of Rotation on Conditions of Measurement 139
What Kinds of Molecules Display Optical Activity? 140
Creation of a Stereogenic Center 153
The Cahn–Ingold–Prelog System 155
Methods of Determining Configuration 158
The Cause of Optical Activity 162
MOLECULES WITH MORE THAN ONE STEREOGENIC CENTER 164 (epimers)
Optical purity 179
Cis–Trans Isomerism Resulting from Double Bonds 182
Cis–Trans Isomerism of Monocyclic Compounds 186
Cis–Trans Isomerism of Fused and Bridged Ring Systems 188
Out–In Isomerism (bicyclic systems with,e.g. C-H pointing inside vs outside) 189
Enantiotopic and Diastereotopic Atoms, Groups, and Faces 191
Stereospecific and Stereoselective Syntheses 194
Conformation in Open-Chain Systems 197
Conformation in Six-Membered Ring 203
Conformation in Six-Membered Rings Containing Heteroatoms 209
Conformation in Other Ring 211
STRAIN 216 (does not seem so relevant to stereochemistry to me at least)
Strain in Other Rings 223
Unsaturated Rings 226
Strain Due to Unavoidable Crowding 230-233
One lesson is that Wiki-chem covers these topics pretty well. March massively emphasizes chirality etc. Another lesson: our article on stereochemistry is too focused on isomers and rotamers, and not enough on cyclic systems. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:44, 6 December 2024 (UTC)