Talk:Stew Peters
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Promoter of Covid-19 misinformation
This man has been promoting Covid-19 misinformation for quite some time now. You can clearly see this on his show, which is often featured on Rumble, a news site rated as having an extreme right bias with low factual reporting according to MediaBiasFactCheck.
Wikipedia articles have been making note of people who've been spreading Covid-19 misinformation. I'm hoping someone can take the time to do it with this article. 174.251.161.213 (talk) 08:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
:While I’m no fan of this guy, I think you need to update the article as much of his “Covid misinformation” has turned out to be true. Even his film “Died Suddenly” is factually correct, so it’s not Misinformation. 2600:1001:B11A:A55F:A5F5:C841:6D13:AF83 (talk) 20:17, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Birth State
Are we sure he was born in Minnesota? I saw some websites say he was born in La Crosse, Wisconsin and the Daily Beast article cited doesn't say he was born in Minnesota. Michaeolson (talk) 13:29, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Peters is an Internet personality not a radio personality
Stew Peters content is exclusively online Its a misnomer to call him a radio host unless we indicate that he's and "internet radio" host. None of his content is broadcast on terrestrial radio The show is in podcast form (banned from many podcast hosting sites due to anti vaxx disinfo) and is broadcast live on Rumble a right leaning Youtube like site with a low moderation policy. It should also be noted his association with white supremacist like Nick Fuentes and Peter Bimelow Kirk345 (talk) 00:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
:Right, done. Apparently he was still an intern in a radio station, left that. Robincantin (talk) 16:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Robincantin (talk) 13:14, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Calling India's moon landing fake
On 23aug india became the first country to achieve soft landing in the lunar south pole, but peters claimed in his X(Twitter) that "india fakes moon landing" which is being debunked by community notes. 103.139.56.213 (talk) 12:30, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
:Just using a tweet as reference isn't great, and the statement isn't particularly notable. If proper sources comment on Peters' position (presumably to point out it's patently false), then we might be able to put it in. Robincantin (talk) 13:14, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Labeling Requirements
The majority of labels attached to this person are slanderous in that they are derogatory without offer of citation. Henceherds (talk) 23:29, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
:The list in the lead might be over-the-top a bit (but so is Peters...), but each term has a proper citation attached to it, so which terms are you referring to? Robincantin (talk) 23:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
== Marjorie Taylor Greene ==
"...similarly to Marjorie Taylor Greene's statement about "Jewish space lasers""
First of all, this is factually inaccurate, as Greene never made a "statement" about "Jewish space lasers," she shared a Facebook post promoting conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds using space lasers to cause wildfires. While "Jewish space lasers" were how her comments were described in the media given the prominence of the Rothschilds in antisemitic conspiracy theories, the post she shared never actually used this phrasing. The quote is therefore both misattributed and fabricated, as these words were never used in the statement being described and the statement was not made by her.
It also doesn't mention who Marjorie Taylor Greene is. While educated readers may know that she is a sitting Congresswoman, this sentence provides zero context as to who MTG is and why the fact that she has promoted similar conspiracy theories is relevant information.
I also don't see any discernible connection between Greene and Peters aside from the fact that they are both right-wing cranks. Both cited sources mention Greene's comments, but this feels like cherrypicking irrelevant information from the articles to make a jab at someone unrelated to Peters.
At the very least, the sentence needs to be restructured to be factually accurate and properly informative, perhaps something along the lines of "mirroring antisemitic conspiracy theories about Rothschild-owned space lasers promoted by US Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene." At the very least, this would be more factually accurate.
But I would go as far as to say that it should just be removed. Seems like a pointless and irrelevant jab that's been added in hastily. Greene's own Wikipedia article discusses the controversy anyway.
2604:3D08:6F7D:8050:FD33:E368:333A:7CF3 (talk) 02:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 December 2024
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The sentence about a doctor calling the patient the "most malnourished" he had ever seen was not quoting a doctor, it was the patient's lawyer that made the claim. The lawyer also stated the patient had improved significantly, less than a week before he died. The lawyer, Holsten, is not a reliable narrator.
Direct quote from the cited article: "The day of her podcast appearance, she found a lawyer, Marjorie Holsten, who immediately filed a motion for a restraining order to keep the hospital from taking Mr. Quiner off the ventilator.
Judge Jennifer Stanfield, of the Tenth Judicial District Court in Anoka County, granted the order. On Jan. 15, Mr. Quiner was flown to a hospital in Texas, where, Ms. Holsten said, his condition has improved significantly. She declined to identify the hospital.
Ms. Holsten said: “He was cognizant until they administered a ton of sedatives. That was when he was put on the ventilator.” Mr. Quiner had lost 30 pounds and was described as the “most malnourished patient” a doctor at the Texas hospital had ever seen, Ms. Holsten said."
In the Wikipedia article: The phrase "most malnourished patient" should not be in quotes or should be properly attributed to Ms. Holsten. Or changed to "The patient's lawyer claims a doctor at the Texas hospital stated the patient to be the most malnourished they had seen.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/21/us/scott-quiner-covid-ventilator.html
Zedominator (talk) 11:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC) Dominic Zedominator (talk) 11:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{already done}} The noted text was already removed by another editor. cyberdog958Talk 00:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
New Occupied film
You didn’t add the masterpiece film true film Occupied he just released. 71.211.164.147 (talk) 01:35, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks! I added a mention, although I couldn't find a credible source calling it a masterpiece. Maybe later, I'll keep a news alert on that. Also, he was arrested for drunk driving. Robincantin (talk) 22:19, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 April 2025
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Add information to section "Promotion of white supremacist and antisemitic rhetoric" citing his recent calls for a Final Solution against the Jewish population of America.
- https://rumble.com/v6rauiy-trump-2.0-making-israel-great-again.html
- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/maga-podcaster-stew-peters-kash-patel-jews-deportation-b2725444.html Ionicdisease (talk) 02:52, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
$JPROOF
Peters just introduced a memecoin whose name is an antisemitic reference. The coin has allegedly reached a market cap of $200 million according to Peters (though that claim might be worth taking with a grain of salt). See: [https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/far-right-media-figures-are-launching-their-own-crypto-coins]. 174.213.247.55 (talk) 01:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Holocaust denier
Does anyone object to this label in the beginning of the lead and body based on:
- [https://forward.com/news/718429/mo-khan-stew-peters-crypto-jproof/ How a Holocaust denier turned antisemitism into a cryptocoin]
- [https://www.adl.org/resources/article/stew-peters-five-things-know Stew Peters: Five Things to Know]
- [https://www.timesofisrael.com/republican-party-official-in-georgia-says-jewish-lobby-controlling-everything/ Republican party official in Georgia says Jewish lobby ‘controlling everything’]
Additional: [https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/07/fbi-kash-patel-madeleine-dean-perjury-lying/83500220007/][https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/legislature/2024/05/07/az-fake-elector-appears-on-holocaust-denier-show-faces-consequences/73602193007/] FortunateSons (talk) 08:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
:Sources are all good. Only counter I could see is an argument that holocaust denial could be rolled under the antisemitism label. But, I have no objection to having it explicitly added in. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 10:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
::It’s obviously a facet, but I would argue that it’s a particularly intense expression. Thanks! FortunateSons (talk) 10:30, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
:Isn't holocaust denying an subset of antisemitism anyway, which is already in the lead? I'm not sure we have the quality sources to make much of it (among the good sources you mention none focus on that aspect of his rhetoric), or that it's particularly notable - at best worth an addition on the relevant section. Robincantin (talk) 10:26, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
::{{tq| Peters also frequently shares Holocaust denial propaganda. “The gas chambers, the crematoriums, so often discussed—they were destroyed at the end of World War II if they were ever there in the first place,” Peters remarked during his January 23, 2024, show. “This really does beg the question, we have to ask, has the overall 6 million Holocaust deaths figure been adjusted to reflect the Auschwitz revelations?”}} sure looks a lot worse than “run-of-the-mill” antisemitism to me. FortunateSons (talk) 10:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Antisemitism is already a hateful, murderous ideology, not sure how holocaust denial would bump it up into another category - the article on antisemitism barely mentions it (although holocaust denial has its own page). Would be easy enough to plug it in the first paragraph of the white supremacy section, but I still think putting it in the lead in redundant.Robincantin (talk) 10:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
::::I disagree with it being redundant, but understand your view. Do you think it adds no value at all for the reader? Or is it a judgement call in your opinion?
::::The differences between antisemitism and holocaust denial is that the latter is significantly rarer than the former, often associated with extreme and violent antisemitism, and that it’s a crime in some countries, but I guess none of those are technically encyclopaedic reasons. FortunateSons (talk) 14:20, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::I think it's 100% a judgment call.Robincantin (talk) 14:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::Thank you! FortunateSons (talk) 14:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Sourcing tags
Which sources are problematic? Is this about media matters? FortunateSons (talk) 18:23, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Holocaust is capital H and "the"
The Holocaust, not just (some, any) holocaust. 94.246.147.217 (talk) 06:13, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 May 2025
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A recent edit introduced unsourced info into the lead https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stew_Peters&diff=prev&oldid=1290474845 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:D9BC:760D:BFDB:701 (talk) 00:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{not done}}: The edit appears properly sourced. Day Creature (talk) 03:44, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
::The change was quite literally made without a source, see the link I posted above.2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:DC6B:DA52:4CF7:66B7 (talk) 03:47, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
:::If you looked at the edit summary, you would realize that the edit was adding additional information from the ADL source that was already cited in that sentence. I verified that the edit properly reflects the sources. Do not reopen this edit request again. Day Creature (talk) 15:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Day Creature}} The "Neo-Nazi" part that was added is not sourced anywhere 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:496D:73D8:2EE6:1805 (talk) 06:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::Even a cursory glance at the cited sources makes clear that Peters has Nazi beliefs, such as anti semitism and Holocaust denial. Continuing to tendentiously argue this point here isn't going to get you anywhere. Day Creature (talk) 23:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 May 2025
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The lead describes him as a neo-Nazi, though it is not mentioned in any of the sources or in the article's body. 2A02:810D:BC82:1E00:2029:CA62:94B2:697A (talk) 22:52, 18 May 2025 (UTC)