Talk:Super Mario Galaxy 2

This could apply to ANY article really, but as the subject says, what makes a source reliable, or rather, what is a reliable source?

GameStop, Amazon, GAME, EB Games etc, are not reliable, but GameSpot, or GameFAQs is. Now, the online stores obviously are unreliable, but what exactly makes GameFAQs or GameSpot reliable, for example? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Ultimate Koopa (talk • contribs) 01:22, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The general question is tough to answer; I guess a source is reliable if it has a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. Going by this, I'd say that GameFAQs might not be a reliable source. GameSpot, however, along with other trusted sites, is listed on the list of reliable video game sources at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. Mario777Zelda (talk) 01:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources, Wikipedia articles[2] should rely primarily on reliable, third-party, published sources (although reliable self-published sources are allowable in some situations – see below). Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy or authoritative in relation to the subject at hand. How reliable a source is depends on context. As a rule of thumb, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication. Geoff B (talk) 01:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

[http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/supermariogalaxy2/vol1_page1.jsp] - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 17:31, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Since Nintendo Power is a very renowned and popular critic of Nintendo games (hence the name), is there any link to what the magazine have said review wise and not just what is on Metacritic? Perhaps use a similar view to Worth Playing's as they were quoted mostly "for the time being" as there were little reviews at the time of writing. Stabby Joe (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

In the last paragraph of "Reception", it said that SMG2 sold "less than expected" on it's first day in Japan. The source for this statement is a blog, which just links to another blog, who compares the sales to NSMB Wii. Nowhere is it stated that there was some sort of industry-wide or expert analyst expectation for SMG2 sales that was not met by the actuals. I've removed that portion of the sentence. Puddleglum411 (talk) 17:40, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

:Agreed. Since the sales were better than first, the developers would take that as a positive. Stabby Joe (talk) 17:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Should the soundtrack be mentioned in the article? It certainly is a major part of the game, and most critics have praised it. Plus, there's an actual CD that has the music (its only available on the Japanese Club Nintendo Catalouge). Anyways I think the soundtrack is noteworthy enough to get it's own section or at least a mention in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.243.144 (talk) 13:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

To quote the article:

"Clearing levels with Luigi unlocks a Ghost Luigi representing a developer speed run that players can race against for completion time"

I literally just finished the game, so this is still very fresh in my mind, and the Luigi ghosts were mostly (if not all) about revealing secrets, like a pipe under a snowy tree or a hidden 1-Up. (Once he's reached his goal, he just sits down and does nothing else.) I can't claim to have seen all the ghosts, but I don't think any of them even came close to the finish line, and I don't think they really count as "speed runs." 76.174.153.192 (talk) 20:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, This needs to be changed. I finished the game 2 months ago and I never saw a single ghost that you had to "race"

- they were all about showing secrets, (comet medals, etc.) Yellow1996 (talk) 17:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

It's fantastic that someone added the track listings, but it might be an idea if we put it all in a table, similar to the Super Mario Galaxy article to neaten things up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LostOverThere (talk • contribs) 02:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

:With the English titles, too, not just the English translation of the Japanese terms (i.e. PeeWee Piranha instead of Dino Pakkun Jr.). 174.23.145.149 (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/sb4j/loading.swf
• http://www.supermariogalaxy.com/_ui/swf/SMG2Shell.swf
• http://www.nintendo.es/NOE/es_ES/games/ms/super_mario_galaxy_2/start.swf
• http://www.nintendo.de/NOE/de_DE/games/ms/super_mario_galaxy_2/start.swf
• http://www.nintendo.fr/NOE/fr_FR/games/ms/super_mario_galaxy_2/start.swf
• http://www.nintendo.pt/NOE/pt_PT/games/ms/super_mario_galaxy_2/start.swf
• http://www.nintendo.pt/NOE/it_IT/games/ms/super_mario_galaxy_2/start.swf
• http://www.nintendo.nl/NOE/nl_NL/games/ms/super_mario_galaxy_2/start.swf

WhisperToMe (talk) 02:20, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

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Who said Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a retcon ? Isn't it just a sequel ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.76.5.75 (talk) 12:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

:Its somewhat obvious. Super Mario Galaxy 2 doesn't act like a sequel, but a retelling of the story. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 14:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

::Super Mario Galaxy 2 behaves like nothing in the original game ever happened. First off, both games open with the "Star Festival," which was established to take place every 100 years. It's unlikely that SMG2 takes place 100 years after the original.--ThomasO1989 (talk) 14:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not going to go around accusing anyone of Original research, but claiming that the game is a retcon of its predecessor is a pretty hefty accusation to throw without a reliable source. I think what has happened here is that editors are reading too heavily into story details in a Mario game. Wouldn't referring to the game simply as a sequel be sufficient? --TheHande (talk) 14:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

:Agree. Unless a source (primary source in this case?) specifically calls it a retcon we must presume it to be a "sequel" by simple virtue of it having a 2 at the end of the name. Rehevkor ✉ 16:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

:: Just to add to the comment. No, the primary source (the game itself) makes no mention of it being a retelling, nor is this retcon stuff referred to anywhere else in the article except the lead. As for the Star Festival being held once a century-bit, what I believe happened at the end of SMG was that the Universe was destroyed and reborn instantly. But that's just my interpretation. It's not somewhat or even at all obvious what really happened at the end of SMG and what it has to do with SMG2. Once again, I think the whole assumption of a retcon having happened seems to me like someone or some people were overthinking the story of the game. --TheHande (talk) 18:34, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

No-one seems to have anything new to add so I'm just going to remove the whole retcon bit. --TheHande (talk) 13:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

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Is this notable enough to merit a mention?

• https://www.polygon.com/gaming/2012/6/19/3096608/super-mario-galaxy-2-split-screen-co-op-multiplayer-mod-hack
• https://gamerant.com/just-cause-2-super-mario-galaxy-2-multiplayer-coop-mods-robk-155516/

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I find this to be one of my favorite articles and one of my favorite games. Please can someone upgrade this article to be a featured? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caustic3 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Is it me or did Charles Martinet (voice of Mario) record new Mario voice clips for Super Mario Galaxy 2 after E3 2009? 178.35.232.66 (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Is the game released for GameCube and Wii? 2A01:C22:C9B5:F400:51FF:679F:8780:C9B2 (talk) 01:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

:If it was, then include a source. If it wasn't, then it doesn't belong in the article. ... discospinster _talk 01:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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