Talk:Suzhou Zhongnan Center

The usual reliable sources for this kind of building don't think it is under construction yet. [http://skyscrapercenter.com/suzhou/century-plaza-south-tower/14243/ CTBUH.org] says it is still a proposal, and [http://www.emporis.com/city/suzhou-china/all-buildings Emporis.com] doesn't mention it at all. Part of the problem might be that this article is about the whole 'urban complex', of which a 700+ m skyscraper is only part. It is quite possible that the urban complex is under construction, but the very tall skyscraper hasn't been started yet. Is there a reliable source that does say the skyscraper has started construction? Without a source, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_tallest_buildings_in_the_world&diff=prev&oldid=533588879 this edit] might be difficult to justify.

One other thing, is the development located in Suzhou Industrial Park or the central business area? They could be the same, but it is unusual for a city to have an industrial park in the city centre. Astronaut (talk) 20:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

:[http://skyscrapercenter.com/suzhou/century-plaza-south-tower/14243/ CTBUH.org] is outdated, because it says "Start of Construction: 2012" but the status is still "proposed". The skyscraper is currently under foundation excavation according to some photos on Internet but no reliable sources have mentioned it. Actually, Suzhou Industrial Park was an industrial park in the past, but it's just a common district now.

:The problem is that these skyscrapers share underground space, whose construction started on May 2012.--Makecat 09:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

::The internet does have photos of guys digging holes in the ground in what might be the right place. However, even the usually very keen members at skyscrapercity don't go as far to say that the 700+ m skyscraper has actually started. Indeed, [http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=97474131&postcount=153 this post] specifically says the very tall buildings will start later (apparently worker's housing is on the site of the two tallest, if you believe that particular forum member). The same thread also says the design competition shortlist only came out in August. It's a bit hard to dig foundations months before the design is decided. Do you have a reliable source for the underground space being shared, or that the 700+ m building has actually got beyond worker's housing? Astronaut (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

:::The news report in the article says the underground space is shared. I have added [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suzhou_Center_Plaza&diff=534128403&oldid=533819397 this], because so far there is no reliable sources about its construction. --Makecat 07:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)