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Requested move 16 May 2025

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

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– These pages generally use the word "Swiss," but only non-official database sources seem to use these. Official league naming conventions simply call it "Challenge League" and "Promotion League." The Promotion League's name was officially changed in 2013, and the Challenge League has been referred to by that title in official contexts. Did not nominate the Super League as it seems to be referred to as the Swiss Super League more often. Came to the idea that this makes more sense from @GiantSnowman's suggestion at a different move discussion. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 21:31, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Procedural oppose - {{ping|Yoblyblob}}, what on earth are you doing?! I have no idea why you withdrew your 'Swiss 1. Liga (football)' discussion, and I have no idea why you have bulked so many articles jere about separate leagues that merit separate discussions. Wha you need to do is:

:1) Close this RM

:2) Nominate Swiss Challenge League / Swiss Promotion League / Swiss Promotion League individually and separately

:3) Once there is consensus on what the parent article should be called, we can then deal with the season and other related articles and categories.

:Please slow down and ask for help if you don't know what you are doing. Your attempt to steamroller through this is causing more disruption and wasting time. GiantSnowman 21:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|GiantSnowman}} I have shrunk this nomination. I figured more coverage on the season articles would have been identical and notified more interested editors to the discussion. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Nope, you should not add or remove articles once a discussion has started. Like I said - close this discussion entirely and start again, with separate discussions for the 3 leagues. GiantSnowman 21:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 16 May 2025_2

{{requested move/dated|Challenge League (Switzerland)}}

:Swiss Challenge League → {{no redirect|Challenge League (Switzerland)}} – The reason for a previous move is confusion on my part. Sources generally refer to this as the Challenge League. This is seen on the [https://sfl.ch/clubs-dieci-challenge-league official site], which only refers to it as Challenge League, with the sponsor as well. News sources also refer to it as such: [https://telegrafi.com/en/spectacle-and-seven-goals-in-the-challenge-league-derby-in-Switzerland%2C-10-Albanian-footballers-on-the-field-and-two-others-on-the-bench/], [https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/the-sounds-of-_switzerland-a-nation-of-football/45075910], [https://www.tagblatt.ch/sport/ab-sofort-nur-noch-schweizer-ld.679788] Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 08:38, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support per nom, standard disambiguation. GiantSnowman 08:40, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose/keep Hello fellow Wikipedians, I oppose to this suggestion, please keep the titles as they are. I have created, or at least worked on (or am indeed now working on), most of the pages that would be affected by these moves (i.e. seasons of the Swiss Super League/Nationalliga A, Nationallige B, seasons of the Swiss 1. Liga, seasons of the Swiss Cup). Please note, that when one writes, reads or talks about football in Switzerland one uses the words: Swiss Super League, Swiss Nationalliga A, Swiss Challenge League, Swiss Nationallige B, Swiss Promotion League, Swiss 1. Liga, Swiss Cup, seasons in Swiss football. One does not write, read or say: Super League (Switerland), Nationalliga A (Switerland), Challenge League (Switerland), Nationallige B (Switerland), Promotion League (Switerland), 1. Liga (Switerland), the Cup (Switerland), nor seasons in football (Switzerland). Furthermore, yes indeed, if you search for Challenge League in German you recieve the suggestion Challenge League Schweiz and if you search in French you get the suggestion Challenge League Suisse. However, if you search in English, you recieve the suggestion Swiss Challenge League and never Challenge League (Switzerland). Please reconsider, because hundreds of pages would be moved and very many texts in thousands of other articles would, in content, become totally incorrect. Thanks and greetings from Switzerland --Huligan0 (talk) 23:42, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :@Huligan0 please provide reliable sources that support your claim. I cannot find anything suggesting that things like "Swiss Challenge League" is used in Switzerland Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 23:58, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Huligan's rationale basically boils down to "I don't like it". GiantSnowman 20:18, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Move to Challenge League and DAB to Challenge League (disambiguation), the Swiss League is clearly WP:PRIMARY and the other similar named leagues are WP:NATURALly disambiguated. Page view stats here: https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2015-07&end=2025-04&pages=Challenge_League.-Ortizesp (talk) 13:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Pinging @GiantSnowman to see input on this as the destination Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:21, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Disagree that there is a PRIMARYTOPIC here. GiantSnowman 16:23, 25 May 2025 (UTC)