Talk:Syrian transitional government#Requested move 9 December 2024
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there's enough reactions to make a part for it 188.133.19.93 (talk) 15:27, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Should we include the vice president?
Requested move 10 April 2025
:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) TarnishedPathtalk 08:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
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:Second Syrian transitional government → {{no redirect|Syrian Transitional Government}} – see talk page "Why is this second?". RamiPat (talk) 09:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
:This may be a complicated one but I did my best.
:To ensure clarity, I will refer to the government formed on 10 December 2024—referred to on Wikipedia as the "First Syrian transitional government"—as the "December government.".
:And the government formed on 29 March 2025—referred to on Wikipedia as the "Second Syrian transitional government"—as the "March government."
:It appears that Wikipedia is the only platforms (or one of the few) that refers to the March government as the "Second" transitional government.
:Upon reviewing multiple sources, it seems like many described the December government as a "transitional government". However, outlets such as Syria TV ,{{cite news |title=تعرّف إلى السير الذاتية لوزراء أول حكومة سورية بعد سقوط نظام الأسد |trans-title=Learn about the biographies of ministers in Syria's first government after the fall of the Assad regime |url=https://www.syria.tv/تعرّف-إلى-السير-الذاتية-لوزراء-أول-حكومة-سورية-بعد-سقوط-نظام-الأسد |work=Syria TV |date=30 March 2025 |lang=ar}} CNN,{{cite news |title=Syria swears in new transitional government months after Assad’s removal |url=https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/30/middleeast/syria-new-transitional-government-intl-hnk |work=CNN |date=30 March 2025}}{{efn|Called the December government as "Interim Government", which if used on Wikipedia may cause confusion with the Syrian Interim Government.}} and Euronews,{{cite news |title=Syria swears in new transitional government on the eve of Eid-al-Fitr |url=https://www.euronews.com/2025/03/30/syria-swears-in-new-transitional-government-on-the-eve-of-eid-al-fitr |work=Euronews |date=30 March 2025}}{{efn|Called the December government as "Interim Government", which if used on Wikipedia may cause confusion with the Syrian Interim Government.}} referred to the March government as "Syria’s first government post-Assad" or "Syria's first transitional government".
:Additionally, during the swearing-in ceremony of the March government, display screens at the presidential palace in Damascus featured short biographies of the new ministers.{{cite news |title=محمد يسر برنية وزير المالية.. معلومات عنه |trans-title=Mohammed Yusr Barniyeh, Minister of Finance.. Information about him |url=https://www.yanba7.com/20499/محمد-يسر-برنية-وزير-المالية-ويكيبيديا/ |work=Yanba7 |date=29 March 2025 |lang=ar |archive-url=https://archive.md/Ja4Mm |archive-date=5 April 2025 |url-status=live}} These biographies described those who had previously served in the December government as having held their roles in a "caretaker government" formed after the fall of the Assad regime (like [https://www.instagram.com/p/DHzPvWktBPg/?igsh=YXdvMHZlZGp6ZXU4 Abu Qasra], [https://www.instagram.com/p/DHzRg4FNpSV/?igsh=MXBsMjN4NHptN3FhdQ== al-Shaibani], [https://www.instagram.com/p/DHzQe0_tXqk/?igsh=MWY5ZXcxc3RmMDRlZA== Khattab], and [https://www.instagram.com/p/DHzSmDOt5XV/?igsh=MTR4bTJnNWNrMWJj al-Bashir] himself. It said "حكومة تصريف الأعمال" ({{langx|en|Caretaker government}}).
:I think "Mohammed al-Bashir caretaker government" or "Al-Bashir caretaker government" serves good to clarify its role. I did not suggest "Mohammed al-Bashir Government" because it may cause confusion with his government in the Syrian Salvation Government.
:- RamiPat (talk) 09:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
::Support I support the renaming of the December government and the March government to Syrian caretaker government and Syrian transitional government, respectively. RyanW1995 (talk) 14:14, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
:If we change the name we should call the December-March government the ‘Syrian caretaker government’ or something like that. Jobfr (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
::Yes I suggested that in there as well RamiPat (talk) 11:23, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support moving the disambiguation page to "Syrian transitional government (disambiguation)", this page to "Syrian transitional government" (supporting lowercased t and g), and moving the first Syrian transitional government page to "Syrian caretaker government". It is more organized that way. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk · contribs) 19:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
:Support renaming the incumbent administration to the Syrian transitional government (removing "second")
:But about the December government I would rename it to the Mohammed al-Bashir government to maintain consistency with previous Syrian governments. I also suggest dropping the "caretaker" label as it's superfluous. Tahomaru (talk) 19:20, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
::But wouldn't that cause confusion as he also headed a government during the times the Syrian Salvation Government? RamiPat (talk) 16:53, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
:Support per nom (and even if this isn't renamed to Syrian Transitional Government, the current name should be changed anyway because of WP:NOR). Asclepias tuberosa (talk) 20:10, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
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=Post Closure Move =
I would like to request the page move to "Syrian transitional government" (with lowercase "t" and "g") in accordance with MOS:CAPS. I also request that the current disambiguation page be deleted to allow this move. HurricaneEdgar 09:51, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
:Done as described in a brief, informal discussion at WP:RM/TR. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
No mention of mass kidnappings of alawites reported by sohr
There is like 7000 people that have dissapeared 193.210.167.74 (talk) 09:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)