Talk:TIBCO Software

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I know this article gets little traffic, but I thought I would put this out there. Should this article have an "Awards" section? It already has enough issues with sounding like an advertisement, and while a few sales-pitch sounding sentences have been fixed, I still think an awards section for a data company distracts from Wikipedia's neutral point of view. Let me know what you think about removing the awards section, because removing it seems like a good option at the moment. See: Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. ~the.one.and.the.only~ (talk) 03:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hello! On behalf of Citrix, as part of my work with Beutler Ink, I'd like to request the CEO be updated to Tom Krause. I propose updating the Infobox as well as the Post-IPO section , which incorrectly says that TIBCO acquired Citrix.

• Add: {{font color|green|In July 2022, Citrix Systems announced it would merge with TIBCO following its acquisition by Vista Equity and Evergreen Coast Capital, and that the new company would be led by Tom Krause.}}{{cite news |title=Bank of America Starts Sounding Out Investors on Citrix Buyout Debt |last1=Scigliuzzo |first1=David |last2=Gurumurthy |first2=Gowri |last3=Amodeo |first3=Jeannine |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-12/bofa-starts-sounding-out-investors-on-citrix-buyout-debt |work=Bloomberg News |date=July 12, 2022 |access-date=November 7, 2022}}
• Replace {{font color|red|acquisition}} with {{font color|green|merger}}

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Because of my COI, I will not make direct changes to the article. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 22:56, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

:File:Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Text in the article has already been updated to reflect the suggested changes. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 20:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Please see merge discussion related to this article at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Merge#Potential_merge.

Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hello editors! On behalf of Cloud Software Group and as part of my work with Beutler Ink, I'll be suggesting changes to update and improve this article (and address the "advertisement" tag).

First off, I'd like to propose a rewrite of the History section, including the Post-IPO subsection. The current section includes details that seem unnecessary, some bordering on promotion or name dropping, as well as sourcing issues. In some cases of dead links, I've removed information where I could not locate a reliable source. Overall, I've tried to consolidate and paraphrase information for better readability as much as possible. Following is replacement History text for editor consideration:

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TIBCO (The Information Bus Company) was founded in 1997 by Vivek Ranadivé as a subsidiary of Reuters Holdings.{{cite news |last1=Levine |first1=Barry |title=Tibco goes private for $4.3 billion |url=https://venturebeat.com/entrepreneur/tibco-goes-private-for-4-3-billion/ |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=VentureBeat |date=September 29, 2014}} Ranadivé originally developed the information bus software at his previous company, Teknekron Software, which he sold to Reuters in 1994.{{cite news |title=This Man Wants to Make the NBA a Social Network — And Take It Global |last1=Riches |first1=Sam |url=https://www.wired.com/2013/12/vivek-ranadive-sacramento-kings/ |work=Wired |date=December 26, 2013 |access-date=April 26, 2023}} TIBCO's software allowed companies to receive and respond to information in real time.{{cite news |last1=Roush |first1=Wade |date=October 28, 2010 |url=http://www.xconomy.com/san-francisco/2010/10/28/the-two-second-advantage-talking-with-tibcos-vivek-ranadive/ |title=The Second Advantage: Talking with TIBCO's Vivek Ranadivé |work=Xconomy |access-date=July 19, 2013 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210621092232/https://xconomy.com/san-francisco/2010/10/28/the-two-second-advantage-talking-with-tibcos-vivek-ranadive/ |archive-date= June 21, 2021}} Later in 1997, the company became one of 13 to partner with Microsoft in the development of push technology.{{cite news |last1=Swartz |first1=Jon |title=Big Boys Pushing Into Hot Technology / Microsoft, Netscape enter the fray |url=https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Big-Boys-Pushing-Into-Hot-Technology-Microsoft-2838696.php |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=SFGATE |date=May 22, 1997}} The company held an initial public offering (IPO) of stock on July 14, 1999. The company said it raised $109.5 million from its IPO.{{cite news|title=Tibco Raises $109 Million |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/15/business/tibco-raises-109-million.html |work=The New York Times |date=July 15, 1999 |access-date=March 20, 2023}}

In 2000, Yahoo! introduced Corporate Yahoo, a platform developed with TIBCO Software that allowed companies to bundle services including email, calendars, and news into enterprise portals. The company partnered with Hewlett-Packard, WebEx, and Citrix Systems on its development.{{cite news |title=Tapping into the need for speed |last1=Levermore-Rich |first1=Adam |url=https://www.paloaltoonline.com/weekly/morgue/2001/2001_06_27.tibco13.html |date=June 27, 2001 |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=Palo Alto Weekly }}{{cite news |title=Daily Briefing: Yahoo to introduce corporate product |date=June 27, 2000 |work=The Atlanta Journal-Constitution}} The company survived the dot-com bubble burst and was listed among USA Today's e-Consumer and e-Business index of 50 technology companies that remained relevant in 2001 following the boom.Krantz, Matt (January 3, 2002). [https://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/invest/2002/01/03/internet-50-survivors.htm "Internet 50 Survivors Rise from Dot-Com Debris"]. USA Today. Retrieved July 20, 2013. By the spring of 2001, TIBCO had a market capitalization of $2 billion.{{cite news |last1=Anders |first1=George |author1-link=George Anders |title=Why ” Real-Time” Business Takes Real Time |url=https://www.fastcompany.com/43359/why-real-time-business-takes-real-time |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=Fast Company |date=June 30, 2001}}

By 2011, the company's annual revenues had grown to $920 million, its customer base to 4,000, and its number of employees to 2,500.{{cite web |last1=Ciaccia |first1=Chris |url=http://www.thestreet.com/story/11353838/1/tibco-tops-wall-street-profit-view-by-nearly-20.html |title=Tibco Tops Wall Street Profit View by Nearly 20%. |website=TheStreet |publisher=Arena Group |access-date=March 20, 2023 |date=December 21, 2011 }}{{cite web |last1=Abramson |first1=Ronna |date=March 18, 2004 |url=http://www.thestreet.com/tech/ronnaabramson/10149368.html |title=Tibco CEO Sets Big Goals |website=TheStreet |publisher=Arena Group |access-date=March 20, 2023}}{{cite news |last1=McCracken |first1=Jeffrey |date=January 25, 2012 |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-25/tibco-to-hire-rapidly-as-economy-improves-ceo-ranadive-says.html |title=Tibco to Hire Rapidly as Economy Improves, CEO Ranadive Says |work=Bloomberg News |access-date=March 20, 2023}} TIBCO was acquired by Vista Equity Partners for $4.2 billion in December 2014. Murray Rode replaced Ranadivé as chief executive officer (CEO) following the acquisition.{{cite news |last1=Clancy |first1=Heather |title=Exit Interview: What’s next for Tibco founder Vivek Ranadivé? |url=https://fortune.com/2014/12/22/tibco-vivek-ranadive/ |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=Fortune |date=December 22, 2014 |language=en}} In 2019, Rode became vice chairman of the company and Dan Streetman succeeded him as CEO.{{Cite web|url=https://www.tibco.com/press-releases/2019/tibco-names-dan-streetman-chief-executive-officer-murray-rode-vice-chairman|title=TIBCO Names Dan Streetman as Chief Executive Officer, Murray Rode as Vice Chairman}}

TIBCO acquired data and analytics company Information Builders for an undisclosed sum in January 2021.{{cite news |last1=Vizard |first1=Michael |title=TIBCO closes its acquisition of IBI to advance data analytics |url=https://venturebeat.com/business/tibco-closes-its-acquisition-of-ibi-to-advance-data-analytics/ |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=VentureBeat |date=January 6, 2021}} In September 2022, Vista and Elliott Investment Management acquired Florida-based Citrix Systems for $16.5 billion and merged the company with TIBCO, forming Cloud Software Group. Tom Krause was named CEO of the new company.{{cite news |last1=Millward |first1=Wade Tyler |title=Citrix-Tibco Close $17B Deal, Uniting Virtualization And Enterprise Apps Vendors |url=https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/citrix-tibco-close-17b-deal-uniting-virtualization-and-enterprise-apps-vendors |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=CRN |date=September 30, 2022 |language=en}}

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Happy to hear feedback or questions here or on my Talk page. Because I have a conflict of interest, I will not directly edit this article and will defer to what changes editors are willing to implement on my behalf. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

:Hello @Inkian Jason: I believe the advertisement tag was added primarily so that the Products and Awards sections could be addressed. Almost all those awards appear to be non-notable and sourced to press releases (including the Reuters and Bloomberg ones). Most of the product info appears to be unsourced or use poor sources.

:That said, your clean up of the History section is a good start and it looks good to me, though I'd like to see a couple of sentences covering TIBCO's predecessor Teknekron (where 'TIB' was first developed), which is now removed. Could you add that here? Here are some sources that cover its formation and history that you could perhaps use: [https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/18/business/company-news-reuters-is-buying-teknekron.html][https://archive.ph/SLxKE][https://www.wired.com/2013/12/vivek-ranadive-sacramento-kings/][https://www.forbes.com/2009/06/16/tibco-goldman-solomon-intelligent-technology-deal.html] Thanks, Ptrnext (talk) 19:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

:: {{Ping|Ptrnext}} Happy to add information about Teknekron (see my new addition in the box above). I like the Wired article because it directly connects the path from Teknekron to TIBCO. I've used that to draft a short addition, but feel free to make text changes. Inkian Jason (talk) 23:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

:::{{done}} Thanks, Ptrnext (talk) 00:47, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

{{Ping|numbermaniac}} Back in April 2021, you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TIBCO_Software&diff=prev&oldid=1019416935&diffmode=source added two tags] to the article, including the remaining "advertisement" tag. Later that month, User:~the.one.and.the.only~ made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TIBCO_Software&diff=prev&oldid=1020186774&diffmode=source changes to the article's opening paragraph], which seem to address the reason you added this tag. Unless there's other problematic text in the article, would you be willing to remove this tag? I should also note, above I've submitted an edit request seeking to improve the History section, if either of you are interesting in reviewing and updating the article on my behalf.

Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason (talk) 18:33, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

:Hi Jason, apologies for the late reply, had been rather busy the last couple weeks. The opening and the History section are looking much better, the latter especially after your edits above. I think some parts of the Products section still sound like an ad for those products, like the EBX and TIBCO Messaging paragraphs. So I think what I'll do is remove the advertisement tag from the top of the article, but add one just for the Products section. – numbermaniac 08:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

::{{replyto|numbermaniac}} Thanks for moving the tag! I agree that the Products section needs help. I've posted a new request below with a much shorter version that I think would be a big improvement. Feel free to take a look if you have time. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello editors! On behalf of Cloud Software Group and as part of my work with Beutler Ink, I'd like to propose a rewrite of the Products section to improve the article. As mentioned in the discussion above, I am also hoping to address the Advertisement tag. I've drafted this to be short, and evergreen. I haven't addressed the Historical products section here, and am open to thoughts on whether or not it makes sense to keep that in the article. I propose replacing the current Products text with the following:

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TIBCO develops enterprise software for business-to-business, business-to-consumer, and business-to-employee networking applications. The company's products include software for enterprise application management, data virtualization, data analytics such as Spotfire, master data management, API management and data integration such as TIBCO Rendezvous, complex event processing such as LogLogic, messaging, data science, streaming data, and business process automation.{{cite news |title=Tibco scales data analytics and visualization with an eye on AI |last1=Kerner |first1=Sean Michael |url=https://venturebeat.com/ai/tibco-scales-data-analytics-and-visualization-with-an-eye-on-ai/ |work=VentureBeat |date=March 14, 2023 |accessdate=April 13, 2023}}

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Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:07, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

:Looks better than the current section - I'll go ahead and replace it with this. As for the Historical products section it may be worth making it a sub-section of Products, and then just reducing it to a summary like this Products paragraph. Or it could just be another paragraph of the Products section. More citations may need to be found for those historical products - only one of them has a reference at the moment. – numbermaniac 07:37, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

::Thank you for reviewing this request and updating the article, numbermaniac. I'll consider some options for the Historical products section. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

{{Ping|numbermaniac}} I'd like to request further changes to Products in order to make that section more concise, cut down on similar information, and remove mention of "{{font color|red|Tibco mashery}}". I propose replacing the current section with the following:

• TIBCO Software provides enterprise application integration, data integration, messaging, event processing, data virtualization, master data management, API management, and business process automation capabilities.{{cite news |title=Tibco scales data analytics and visualization with an eye on AI |last1=Kerner |first1=Sean Michael |url=https://venturebeat.com/ai/tibco-scales-data-analytics-and-visualization-with-an-eye-on-ai/ |work=VentureBeat |date=March 14, 2023 |accessdate=April 13, 2023}}

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If this works for you, would you be willing to update the article on my behalf? {{Ping|Lightoil}} I am putting this request on your radar as well, given your participation in the Historical products discussion below. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

:{{Done}}! Looks good. – numbermaniac 07:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

::@Numbermaniac Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 15:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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Related to the above discussion, I've been going through this article and would like to suggest removal of the Historical products. Looking at the sourcing, there's a dead link source for TIBCO ActiveMatrix, there are no citations for any of the other products mentioned, and the two that have their own articles are likely not actually notable. I did not see coverage that indicated any of these need to be mentioned in this article. I'm open to other ideas and feedback. {{Ping|numbermaniac}} I am putting this request on your radar given your participation above. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 22:03, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

:File:Yes check.svg Done Lightoil (talk) 03:49, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hello editors! On behalf of Cloud Software Group and as part of my work with Beutler Ink, I'd like to propose a rewrite of the Acquisitions section to improve the article.

I suggest replacing the bulleted list with prose, as presented below:

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TIBCO's history has been marked by acquisitions, making them in each decade of its existence and more than 30 between 1997 and 2018.{{cite news |title=TIBCO to buy data management firm Orchestra Networks: sources |last1=O'Donnell |first1=Carl |last2=Baker |first2=Linda B. |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-orchestra-m-a-tibco-idUSKBN1O30F7 |publisher=Reuters |date=December 4, 2018 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} The company's first acquisition came in 1998 with the purchase of push software company InCommon. Its second came the following year with the purchase of InConcert, a telecommunications software company.{{cite news |title=TIBCO acquiires two year old push company InCommon |url=https://techmonitor.ai/technology/tibco_acquiires_two_year_old_push_company_incommon |access-date=June 20, 2023 |work=Tech Monitor |date=January 21, 1998}}{{cite news |title=TIBCO Acquires XML Firm Extensibility |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2000/07/31/daily22.html |work=San Francisco Business Times |date=August 4, 2000 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} real-time messaging company Talarian,{{cite news |title=Tibco acquires Talarian |last1=Goldsmith |first1=Julian |url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/tibco-acquires-talarian/ |work=ZDNet |date=January 7, 2002 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}, business process automation company Staffware,{{cite news |title=Tibco Software to Acquire Staffware |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB108267869059991503 |access-date=June 20, 2023 |work=The Wall Street Journal |date=April 23, 2004}} master data management software provider Velosel,{{cite news |title=Tibco acquires Velosel for master data management technology |last1=Schwartz |first1=Ephraim |url=https://www.infoworld.com/article/2673082/tibco-acquires-velosel-for-master-data-management-technology.html |work=InfoWorld |date=October 24, 2005 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} data analytics providers Spotfire and Insightful Corporation,{{cite news |title=Tibco to buy business intelligence software co., Spotfire, for $195M |last1=Marshall |first1=Matt |url=https://venturebeat.com/business/tibco-to-buy-business-intelligence-software-co-spotfire-for-195m/ |work=VentureBeat |date=May 2, 2007 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}{{cite news |title=Tibco Software to buy Insightful Corp. for $25M |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2008/06/16/daily29.html |work=San Francisco Business Times |date=June 19, 2008 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} and cloud computing company DataSynapse.{{cite news |title=UPDATE 1-Tibco buys DataSynapse for $28 mln |last1=Dutta |first1=Mansi |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/tibco-idUSBNG41721920090824 |work=Reuters |date=August 24, 2009 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}

The company continued to purchase smaller firms throughout the 2010s, including several data analytics and science-related companies, such as Netrics,{{cite news |title=Tibco buys Netrics for undisclosed price |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-tibco-buys-netrics-for-undisclosed-price-2010mar26-story.html |work=The San Diego Union-Tribune |agency=Associated Press |date=March 26, 2010 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} Maporama,{{cite news |title=Tibco is ‘the fastest growing enterprise software company,’ CEO says — despite sales |last1=Marshall |first1=Matt |url=https://venturebeat.com/business/tibco/ |work=VentureBeat |date=March 28, 2013 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} SnappyData, streaming data analytics firm StreamBase Systems,{{cite news |title=Tibco acquires Streambase to bring real-time analytics tech to Wall Street |last1=Farr |first1=Christina |url=https://venturebeat.com/business/tibco-acquires-streambase-to-bring-real-time-analytics-tech-to-wall-street/ |work=VentureBeat |date=June 11, 2013 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} Statistica,{{cite news |title=Tibco Software to acquire data science platform provider Statistica |last1=Condon |first1=Stephanie |url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/tibco-software-to-acquire-data-science-platform-provider-statistica/ |work=ZDNet |date=May 15, 2017 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} and analytics development firm Alpine Data Labs.{{cite news |last1=Whiting |first1=Rick |title=Tibco To Acquire Business Analytics Pioneer Information Builders |url=https://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/tibco-to-acquire-business-analytics-pioneer-information-builders |access-date=June 20, 2023 |work=CRN |date=October 22, 2020 |language=en}} It also Cisco Systems{{'}} data virtualization software,{{cite news |title=BRIEF-TIBCO acquires data virtualization business from Cisco |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/brief-tibco-acquires-data-virtualization-idINASB0BM3M |work=Reuters |date=October 5, 2017 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} data automation company Scribe Software,{{cite news |title=Vista Equity considers sale of Tibco, which it bought for $4.3 billion in 2014, sources say |last1=Sherman |first1=Alex |url=https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/vista-equity-considers-sale-of-tibco-sources-say.html |work=CNBC |date=July 23, 2021 |accessdate=June 21, 2021}} and data management company Orchestra Networks.

The company also branched beyond data analytics and management with its acquisitions, and purchased file transfer company Proginet,{{cite news |title=UPDATE 1-Tibco to buy Proginet for $19.7 mln in cash |last1=Ganguly |first1=Sadipto |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/proginet-takeover-tibco-idUSSGE65L0HU20100622 |work=Reuters |date=June 22, 2010 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} oil and gas exploration software company OpenSpirit,{{cite news |title=Tibco Software buys OpenSpirit Corp. |last1=Brown |first1=Steven E.F. |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2010/09/20/daily59.html |work=San Francisco Business Times |date=September 23, 2010 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} loyalty management software developer Loyalty Lab,{{cite news |title=Tibco Software buys Loyalty Lab for $23M |last1=Brown |first1=Steven E.F. |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2010/12/08/tibco-software-buys-loyalty-lab-for-23m.html |work=San Francisco Business Times |date=December 8, 2010 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} business process discovery software developer Nimbus,{{cite news |title=Tibco Software acquires Nimbus Partners |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/08/30/tibco-software-acquires-nimbus-partners.html |work=Silicon Valley Business Journal |date=August 30, 2011 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} security management platform LogLogic,{{cite news |title=Tibco Buys LogLogic For $130M |last1=Savitz |first1=Eric |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/04/13/tibco-buys-loglogic-for-130m/?sh=3a2632415a78 |work=Forbes |date=April 13, 2012 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} business intelligence company Extended Results,{{cite news |title=Business-intelligence tech company Extended Results acquired by Tibco Software |last1=Bishop |first1=Todd |url=https://www.geekwire.com/2013/businessintelligence-tech-company-extended-results-acquired-tibco-software/ |work=GeekWire |date=September 18, 2013 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} business software provider JasperSoft,{{cite news |title=Tibco Pays About $185M to Acquire Jaspersoft |last1=Kell |first1=John |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/DJFVW00020140428ea4st7sqq |work=The Wall Street Journal |date=April 28, 2014 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}} and API manager Mashery.{{cite news |title=Intel sells Mashery to Tibco. But what was it doing buying it in the first place? |last1=Kepes |first1=Ben |url=https://www.computerworld.com/article/2976267/intel-sells-mashery-to-tibco-but-what-was-it-doing-buying-it-in-the-first-place.html |work=Computer World |date=August 26, 2015 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}

Prior to its merger with Citrix, TIBCO made its final acquisition in October 2020, purchasing analytics company Information Builders.

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{{ping|numbermaniac|Lightoil|Ptrnext}} Since the three of you have reviewed my previous requests, I was hoping you might be willing to weigh in again.

Happy to hear feedback or questions here or on my Talk page. Because I have a conflict of interest, I will not directly edit this article and will defer to what changes editors are willing to implement on my behalf. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 15:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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1. The claim(s) regarding the acquisition of certain companies could not be added because the Wikilinks for these companies−which would indicate if the companies were independently notable−were not provided with the request.{{efn|This naturally excludes the Wikilinks for the 4 companies already shown in the article. Those companies may be re-added to the article as prose at anytime.}}
2. To proceed with the request, kindly provide the WikiLinks of the mentioned companies.{{efn|What the reviewer is asking for here is not due to WP:N (which is not a content requirement). In this instance, the request for notability is to ensure a neutral point of view. The purchase of one company by another company represents a point of view, in that it effectively ascribes to a purchased company the relative value and importance of its purchase according to the purchaser's point of view (i.e., "Because we thought it was important-enough to buy, that makes it important-enough to mention in the article."). If the purchased companies were independently notable, that would add weight to the purchasing company's view that their purchase was important enough to be mentioned in the article. Otherwise, adding to an article several points of view on the purchase of non-notable companies may upset an article's balancing aspects.{{cite web |title=WP:BALASP |url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Balancing_aspects |website=Wikipedia |language=en |date=16 July 2023 |quote=An article should not give undue weight to minor aspects of its subject. A description of isolated events or news reports related to a subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic.}} Thus, this reviewer's own practice is to limit the listing of acquisitions to those which are independently notable in Wikipedia.}} When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{tlx|Edit COI}} template's answer parameter to read from {{para|ans|y}} to {{para|ans|n}}. Please note that prior text entered in the Edit request proposal should not be retro-actively altered. Instead, a new reply post supplying the needed information should be posted below this review. The original {{tlx|Edit COI}} template may then be altered.

Regards,  Spintendo  08:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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I am sorry to see the above request to convert a list with many bad sources and incorrect dates into accurate prose with much better sources has been rejected. Therefore, I'll pivot and submit a series of requests to fix inaccuracies, provide sources for unsourced text, and replace bad sources with news coverage. Currently, the Acquisitions section starts with the following:

• {{font color|red|In 1997, it acquired inCommon, a push software company.{{Cite web|url=https://www.thefreelibrary.com/TIBCO+Acquires+inCommon;+Content+Delivery+and+Management+Technology...-a020157872|title=TIBCO Acquires inCommon; Content Delivery and Management Technology to be Integrated Into TIBCO's Information Bus Products. - Free Online Library|website=www.thefreelibrary.com}}}}
• {{font color|red|In 1999, it acquired InConcert, a telecommunication workflow company.{{cite web |url=http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tibco-software-completes-inconcert-acquisition-77058017.html |title=TIBCO Software Completes InConcert Acquisition |website=www.prnewswire.com |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160413220246/http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tibco-software-completes-inconcert-acquisition-77058017.html |archive-date=2016-04-13}} }}
• {{font color|red|In 2000, it acquired Extensibility, an XML technology company.{{cite web |url=http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tibco-software-announces-acquisition-of-extensibility-inc-72695357.html |title=TIBCO Software Announces Acquisition of Extensibility, Inc. |website=www.prnewswire.com |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160413233127/http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tibco-software-announces-acquisition-of-extensibility-inc-72695357.html |archive-date=2016-04-13}} }}

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Problems:

• The current text uses an inaccessible source and press releases.
• The current text has an incorrect date (1997 for InCommon).

I propose replacing these bullets with the following:

• {{font color|green|In 1998, it acquired InCommon, a push software company{{cite news |title=TIBCO acquiires two year old push company InCommon |url=https://techmonitor.ai/technology/tibco_acquiires_two_year_old_push_company_incommon |access-date=June 20, 2023 |work=Tech Monitor |date=January 21, 1998}}}}
• {{font color|green|In 1999, it acquired InConcert, a telecommunications software company{{cite news |title=TIBCO Acquires XML Firm Extensibility |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2000/07/31/daily22.html |work=San Francisco Business Times |date=August 4, 2000 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}}}

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Thanks for reviewing. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Related to above, I'd like to suggest another improvement for the Acquisitions section.

Currently, the article says:

• {{font color|red|In 2002, it acquired Talarian, which developed SmartSockets.Taft, Darryl (January 7, 2002). [http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Tibco-to-Acquire-Talarian/ "Tibco to Acquire Talarian"].}}
• {{font color|red|In 2004, the company acquired Staffware for automating, integrating and dynamically managing business processes.}}
• {{font color|red|In 2005, it acquired Objectstar, a mainframe integrator.[http://www.tibco.com/company/news/releases/2005/press654.jsp] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120320073126/http://www.tibco.com/company/news/releases/2005/press654.jsp|date=March 20, 2012}}}}
• {{font color|red|In 2005, it acquired Velosel, a master data management software provider.{{Cite web|url=https://www.infoworld.com/article/2673082/tibco-acquires-velosel-for-master-data-management-technology.html|title = Tibco acquires Velosel for master data management technology|date = October 24, 2005}}}}

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Problems:

• eWeek is not a problematic source, but the article used here is outdated and describes a future acquisition.
• The Staffware claim is unsourced.
• The Objectstar claim is sourced by TIBCO's website; I've struggled to find secondary coverage, so I suggest removal (as seen below).
• The references are poorly formatted.

I propose removing the Objectstar claim and replacing the other three with the following:

• {{font color|green|In 2002, it acquired real-time messaging company Talarian.{{cite news |title=Tibco acquires Talarian |last1=Goldsmith |first1=Julian |url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/tibco-acquires-talarian/ |work=ZDNET |date=January 7, 2002 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}}}
• {{font color|green|In 2004, it acquired Staffware, a business process automation company.{{cite news |title=Tibco Software to Acquire Staffware |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB108267869059991503 |access-date=June 20, 2023 |work=The Wall Street Journal |date=April 23, 2004}}}}
• {{font color|green|In 2005, it acquired Velosel, a master data management software provider.{{cite news |title=Tibco acquires Velosel for master data management technology |last1=Schwartz |first1=Ephraim |url=https://www.infoworld.com/article/2673082/tibco-acquires-velosel-for-master-data-management-technology.html |work=InfoWorld |date=October 24, 2005 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}}}

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I hope editors will see this as an improvement and implement on my behalf.

Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:24, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Similar to above, I'd like to suggest another source improvement for the Acquisitions section.

Currently, the article says:

• {{font color|red|In 2007, the company acquired Spotfire, which marketed analytics for business intelligence.Gardner, W. David (May 1, 2007). [http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199202943 "Tibco Acquires Spotfire for $195 Million"]. InformationWeek.}}
• {{Font color|red|In 2008, it purchased Insightful Corporation, including the S-PLUS data analysis programming language.{{Cite web|url=http://tibco.com/company/news/releases/2008/press924.jsp|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080914153015/http://tibco.com/company/news/releases/2008/press924.jsp|url-status=dead|archive-date=September 14, 2008|title=TIBCO Completes Acquisition of Insightful Corporation|date=September 14, 2008}}}}
• {{Font color|red|In 2009, it entered the grid computing and cloud computing markets with its acquisition of DataSynapse.{{Cite web|url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/with-datasynapse-tibco-looks-to-both-present-and-future/|title=With DataSynapse, TIBCO looks to both present and future|first=James|last=Staten|website=ZDNet}}}}

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Problems:

• For Spotfire, the InformationWeek source does not work.
• The Insightful claim is sourced by TIBCO's website.
• The company descriptions are not quite accurate based on news sources.

I propose replacing these three bullets with the following:

• {{font color|green|In 2007, it acquired Spotfire, a business intelligence software company.{{cite news |title=Tibco to buy business intelligence software co., Spotfire, for $195M |last1=Marshall |first1=Matt |url=https://venturebeat.com/business/tibco-to-buy-business-intelligence-software-co-spotfire-for-195m/ |work=VentureBeat |date=May 2, 2007 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}}}
• {{Font color|green|In 2008, it purchased Insightful Corporation, which provides products for statistical data analysis and data mining.{{cite news |title=Tibco Software to buy Insightful Corp. for $25M |last1= |first1= |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2008/06/16/daily29.html |work=San Francisco Business Times |date=June 19, 2008 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}{{cite journal |title=Tibco Software to acquire data analysis company Insightful |journal=Silicon Valley Business Journal |date=June 19, 2008 |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2008/06/16/daily54.html |quote= Tibco Software Inc. said Thursday it agreed to acquire Insightful Corp., a provider of statistical data analysis and data mining products, in a deal valued at about $25 million.}}}}
• {{Font color|green|In 2009, it acquired DataSynapse, expanding TIBCO's grid computing and cloud computing offerings.{{cite news |last1=Staten |first1=James |title=With DataSynapse, TIBCO looks to both present and future |url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/with-datasynapse-tibco-looks-to-both-present-and-future/ |work=ZDNET |date=August 26, 2009}}{{cite news |title=UPDATE 1-Tibco buys DataSynapse for $28 mln |last1=Dutta |first1=Mansi |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/tibco-idUSBNG41721920090824 |work=Reuters |date=August 24, 2009 |accessdate=June 21, 2023}}}}

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Again, my goals are to improve the accuracy of text already included in the article, and to provide more reliable sources to use as citations. I hope editors will consider these suggestions improvements, and implement on my behalf. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:00, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{Confirmed|Approved}} Of the seven companies that you mentioned (since my earlier reply) which had problematic sourcing, I've removed six of them, and the seventh one I updated, since it was the only one which was notable. I will also be updating the references for the notable companies LogLogic, Jaspersoft, and Streambase's{{efn|Streambase no longer operates as a functioning Wikipedia site, but it was previously its own Wikipedia page. Indeed, if any redirects exist, that would mean that those older pages counted as being independently notable at one time and thus should be noted in this article.}} acquisitions as prose, per your first request. Regards,  Spintendo  21:14, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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Hello again! I have a few more changes to request for this article:

• In the Infobox: Replace the "owners" value with "parent" and change "Vista Equity Partners" to "Cloud Software Group"
• Reason: Cloud Software Group has been the parent company since September 2022.
• In the Infobox: Change Type from "Private" to "Subsidiary"
• Reason: TIBCO is a subsidiary of Cloud Software Group

Happy to answer any questions. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

:{{done}}  Spintendo  19:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

::Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 19:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hello again! I'd like to suggest changes to the introduction:

• Change: "{{Font color|red|TIBCO Software Inc. is an American business intelligence software company founded in 1997 in Palo Alto, California.}}"

To

• "{{font color|green|TIBCO Software is a business unit of Cloud Software Group that provides enterprise software.}}"
• Reason: To bring this sentence up to date with the current company structure.

• Remove: "{{Font color|red|Its Palo Alto campus consists of four buildings on 16 acres in Stanford Research Park.}}"
• Reason: This seems like an unnecessary detail for an article introduction.

• Add: "{{Font color|green|TIBCO was merged with Citrix Systems in September 2020, following the latter's acquisition by Vista Equity Partners and Elliott Investment Management.{{cite news |last1=Millward |first1=Wade Tyler |title=Citrix-Tibco Close $17B Deal, Uniting Virtualization And Enterprise Apps Vendors |url=https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/citrix-tibco-close-17b-deal-uniting-virtualization-and-enterprise-apps-vendors |access-date=March 20, 2023 |work=CRN |date=September 30, 2022 |language=en}}}}"
• Reason: This was a significant change to the company that seems worth noting in the introduction.
• Supported by: Millward, Wade Tyler (September 30, 2022)."[https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/citrix-tibco-close-17b-deal-uniting-virtualization-and-enterprise-apps-vendors Citrix-Tibco Close $17B Deal, Uniting Virtualization And Enterprise Apps Vendors]". CRN.

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Happy to answer any questions. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 23:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

{{border |{{emoji|2705|theme=one v1|size=20}}{{nbsp|2}}Edit request implemented{{nbsp|2}}|display=table |width=1px |style=solid |style2= |color=black |lh=1}}  Spintendo  03:08, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

:{{tlx|Edit COI|ans=y}} Thank you for reviewing, User:Spintendo. However, the article body had already mentioned the merger, so I was hoping to update the introduction with this important detail. Are you willing to update the introduction instead? Inkian Jason (talk) 16:24, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

::Your request did not specify where the text was to be placed, so I placed it in the History section in chronological order, assuming that because it had references, it was meant for the main body of text, since references are ordinarily left out of the lead.{{efn|Placed inside of the reasoning section of the edit request was the following: {{tq|This was a significant change to the company that seems worth noting in the introduction}} but did not specify what section. Please note (a) directions for text emplacement ought not to be placed within the Reasons section; that (b) the lead section is not supposed to contain references; and (c) if this is a significant change, please specify how and in what way it is significant; and (d) individual sections of an article can have their own introductions, while an article has only one lead section — meaning it would be preferable to label changes to the lead section as "changes to the lead section".}}

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::Regards,  Spintendo  19:25, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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Based on User:Spintendo's feedback above, I'd like to request an addition to the lead section of the article:

• Add to the article's lead section: "{{font color|green|TIBCO was merged with Citrix Systems in September 2020, following the latter’s acquisition by Vista Equity Partners and Elliott Investment Management.}}"
• Reason: This was a significant change to TIBCO representing it becoming part of Cloud Software Group, rather than a standalone entity. This information is already verified in the article’s History section.
• Supported by: Millward, Wade Tyler (September 30, 2022). "[https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/citrix-tibco-close-17b-deal-uniting-virtualization-and-enterprise-apps-vendors Citrix-Tibco Close $17B Deal, Uniting Virtualization And Enterprise Apps Vendors]". CRN.

Happy to answer any questions, thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 21:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

{{tq| This was a significant change to TIBCO representing it becoming part of CSG, rather than a standalone entity}} when tibco entered into existence, it was as a subsidiary of another company, so there was never a time when it was "standing alone."

• I think if this purchase were made by Apple or another large well-known technology company, this would be important lead-section material. I don't believe the article is harmed by this information being placed in the main body of the article. The article itself is detailed with a timeline of information on many different types of business relationships the subject company has entered into. The article champions the idea that the main body of the article is not an inappropriate place for timeline-like information on mergers and acquisitions (indeed, history sections always function sort of like prosaic timelines, so to speak, where information is discussed in a chronological format by using prose instead of a more traditional vertical timeline that has dates and a couple of sentences in a bullet format). So it being placed there is not out of the ordinary. Perhaps as a second paragraph of the lead section, there could be a short mention of how CSG came to be (more briefly put than the paragraph in the history section is now) and without footnotes, since that section is supposed to be devoid of those. Let me know what you think. Regards,  Spintendo  02:10, 9 November 2023 (UTC)