Talk:Tesla Cybertruck#rfc D8F5BCB

How many recalls has Tesla cyber truck had so far? 2600:6C48:6800:2F6:6C58:AEF0:A78F:9092 (talk) 04:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

:Did you read the article? There is a table describing 5 recalls. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 05:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

::That table is unnecessarily detailed for Wikipedia. I checked multiple other pages for vehicles which had recalls and none have such tables. It should be removed and replaced with one line stating the total number of recalls, using the same source. IlyaHolt (talk) 05:47, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

In the EU the passenger car driving licence is limited to a gross vehicle weight of 3500kg (7720 lb). So most of the people arr not allowed to drive the car.

Is that something worth mentioning? Schrauber5 (talk) 06:31, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

:Probably not. Practically all current American style pickups would be classified as small trucks in the EU, so this would be common knowledge for those that need to know and irrelevant for other readers. Perhaps it would be worthwhile mentioning in the articles about vehicle classifications.  Stepho  talk  06:39, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

::I'm not so sure. The Maxus eTerron 9, for one, has a maximum weight of exactly 3.5t.{{cite web|url=https://saicmaxus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/eTERRON-9-Brochure.pdf|title=Specification of eTERRON 9|website=SAIC Maxus|access-date=30 January 2025}} That can't be a coincidence.

::I don't think it's worth mentioning, though. Tesla is expected to have to modify the vehicle design if they want to meet European safety standards,{{cite web|url=https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/tesla-cybertruck-production-europe-news/|title=Will the Tesla Cybertruck be legal in Europe?|website=Motoring Research|access-date=30 January 2025}} so they could reduce its weight as part of the process. Until then, it doesn't much matter what driving licence you have. Aoeuidhtns (talk) 02:00, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

:::I feel that the relevance of that hinges on what category the Cybertruck is competing in. If it's main competitors are the F-150, RAM 1500 and the Silverado (which I consider most likely), I feel it IS worth an inclusion as all of those vehicles are below 3.5t and therefore drivable in the EU with a B license, making the Cybertruck an outlier. Several media sources have also reported on its weight and license requirements. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/cybertruck https://www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk/blog/will-the-tesla-cybertruck-come-out-in-the-uk/ <

:::If it instead is gunning for the RAM 2500, F-250 and Silverado HD there is no point in including it as all those trucks are above 3.5t with margin.

:::There is a good case to be made for the former rather than the latter, as marketing materials have directly compared it with the F-150. https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/11/26/teslas-cybertruck-battles-fords-f-150-in-a-pickup-truck-showdown.html

:::Not making any edits to reflect my view as the topic seems contentious. 85.230.98.109 (talk) 05:49, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

::::Tesla haven't applied for type approval in the EU or UK as they know this would not be granted for a number of reasons. Most very large American pickups and SUVs aren't type approved there. The market for such enormous vehicles is very small, so it's not worthwhile for manufacturers to make the necessary changes even if this is possible. The European and North American vehicle markets are very, very different. --Ef80 (talk) 17:31, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

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The article asserts that there is a backlog of 2 million reservations. However, the number comes from a Forbes article that redirects to an [https://insideevs.com/news/687142/tesla-cybertruck-2-million-reservations-crowdsourced-data/ "inside evs" article] that explicitly presents the number as highly uncertain. It was estimated through crowdsourced data and "clever math" (literally). Other sources cite an optimistic announcement of 1 million reservations, and even that seems to be too optimistic as the truck now sales directly on demand while fewer than 60k have been sold : https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas-2024-deliveries-growth-might-hinge-musks-unorthodox-cybertruck-2024-12-20/ Judemonde (talk) 21:07, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

:Agreed. It's very much an estimate based on unknown/unpublished variables.

:Reservations are a funny thing. From the customer's viewpoint, they can reserve a vehicle for $100 - which they can get back if they change their mind. From the company's viewpoint, they get a big pile of cash as an interest free loan - which is then used as development capital for the vehicle.  Stepho  talk  21:57, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Very strange to include a separate section dedicated to recalls, when other recall-heavy vehicles lack it. The G20 3 Series has for example been recalled 7 times in 2024 (UK, [https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/33102344/most-car-recalls-uk-2024-bmw-mercedes/ src]), yet has no mention of it in its article. While 5 recalls puts it high up in the list of recalls/model/yr, it is not praxis to include in its own section and should either be appended to all automotive articles or omitted as per WP:CONCISE. 85.230.98.109 (talk) 03:34, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:Agreed. With the exception of the unintended acceleration, the other recalls are run-of-the-mill type of stuff that every new car has.  Stepho  talk  09:14, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:Interesting point. Potential counterpoint: the number of recalls has garnered significantly more media attention than any other new vehicle's recalls that I can think of. Does that count as notability? Not actually taking a position but looking for feedback. EllieDellie (talk) 17:24, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

::Just a counter point, the Ford lightning has had 23 recalls while cybertruck has had 9. I don't think it's the number of recalls that is the reason for the media's attention. 47.25.240.166 (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

:Agree. I also think it odd. The only difference is that Tesla recalls get a lot of news coverage and other car companies don't.War (talk) 04:37, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

::That isn't "odd", that is the reason why the recalls are included. Coverage by RS determines what we put into an article. Cortador (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Franz von Holzhausen is mentioned but his wiki page is not referenced. This should be added. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen

73.109.122.182 (talk) 15:35, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:Already linked in the infobox and the '2019 concept' section.  Stepho  talk  01:54, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Is it always noted on a vehicle's page when someone has used it as a carbomb or in a ramming attack?

It's a relevant part of the incident in question, but I don't see why it should be on this page. 2600:4809:88B1:5101:A9E6:E992:6033:9756 (talk) 16:18, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:It's one of those things that if we delete it then some kind soul will re-add it. But we should at least make it clearer that the vehicle itself was not to blame.  Stepho  talk  01:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

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The part describing a truck blowing up has nothing to do with the truck itself, rather the fact a random individual put explosives in it, therefore it has nothing to do with this particular vehicle itself 50.109.242.7 (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

:File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Somajyoti ✉ 00:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

:As I said in the section above, if we remove the incident then it is highly likely that somebody will add it back in - defeating the purpose. I have added "The explosion was not due to the vehicle itself." to make it clear that it was not due to the design of the Cybertruck.  Stepho  talk  00:27, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

::And my change was reverted https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Las_Vegas_Cybertruck_explosion&diff=1283432749&oldid=1283194191. Somebody else want to take a crack at it.  Stepho  talk  23:34, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Never mind, it has been improved by another editor to specifically call out the explosive device.  Stepho  talk  01:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

It's been my experience that Jalopnik tends to engage in 'scandal rag' style reporting against Electric Vehicles in general and Teslas in particular. So, I think it would be prudent to either pair it with a more reliable source or remove anything that is only sourced from Jalopnik. Largely Legible Layman (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:Anything available to help us better understand your "experience" that leads you to this opinion? --ZimZalaBim ^talk 22:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

::Nothing I have on hand I'm afraid, but every Jalopnik headline about electric vehicles that I can remember seeing boiled down to something along the lines of: "EV wastes money and kills your dog, diesel-turbo-charged-rar-rar is good!" Maybe I've only ever seen their least representative work *shrug*. Largely Legible Layman (talk) 01:51, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:::A quick skim of their recent EV articles shows a healthy mix of enthusiasm vs scepticism - see https://www.jalopnik.com/category/evs-and-hybrids/ . They are neither rabidly for nor rabidly against EV's but point out both positive and negative points for each case.  Stepho  talk  03:00, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::::I've noticed the same thing mentioned by @Largely Legible Layman. I even found someone who wrote about it: see: https://www.greencarfuture.com/electric/why-jalopnik-hates-tesla War (talk) 09:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Second. QRep2020 (talk) 13:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

can someone add the cybertrucks appearance at agfest because it made my day. cheers 2403:4800:3240:500:9EC8:E9FF:FE12:445F (talk) 19:50, 10 May 2025 (UTC)