Talk:Thespis (opera)

See current edition of Fowler's Modern English Usage, page 157:

:if the collective noun is thought of as a unit, a singular verb or pronoun follows naturally... but if members of the group are thought of as individuals a plural verb or pronoun is appropriate.

In this case the company is a unit (as Gilbert himself wrote in The Grand Duke, Act II) - "The company possesses all the necessary dresses".) The anonymous editor probably does not know better than Fowler, Burchfield and W S Gilbert, meseems. Tim riley (talk) 15:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

:The British and Australians have the irritating habit of treating collective nouns as plurals, which is grammatically incorrect. I pointed this out to an Australian English teacher (the mother of Trevor Lees, the audio designer), who agreed -- but she did it anyway. It's most-often heard in the US on Mythbusters, which is written by an Australian: "The team have a meeting to decide what to do." As the word "team" has a plural (teams), it follows that "team" is singular, and takes a singular noun. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Modern British usage has certainly changed to treating collective nouns as plurals, after Gilbert's time, even on the BBC. Are you sure that this is not considered grammatically correct in the UK today? -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Is it worth mentioning that Allen believes that this production's opening night enjoyed the largest audience of all G&S opening nights?
Jim Dunning | talk 22:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

:Not sure. The Gaiety was the biggest theatre where they ever premiered an opera, so it's almost certainly true; on the other hand, so what? I'm not sure it's a factoid that really adds anything, because it doesn't say anything about the quality of the work, only about the size of the theatre.... I don't feel strongly against it.... -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thespis is set on Mount Olympus, which is a real location, so, despite being populated by the Gods, I'm not sure it should be operas with mythological locations rather than operas set in Greece. Shsilver (talk) 21:25, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

:Is it the real Mount Olympus, or a mythical Mount Olympus? How do other works about the Gods on Olympus treat it? If you're sure about it, go ahead and delete it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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